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To: Julia H.; betty boop; Arthur Wildfire! March; Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Really? I thought it was a country founded on freedom of religion.

No, it was founded on Judeo-Christian principles and the concept that men were granted by their Creator certain inalienable rights and that it's the governments responsibility to protect those rights, one of which is freedom to worship without the state regulating it and determining which church you must attend.

If you study history and see what the religious/political climate was in England at the time the Constitution was written, you'd get a good feel for what they were striving to do.

19 posted on 05/09/2010 11:12:36 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom; Julia H.; Alamo-Girl; Arthur Wildfire! March; Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
It has been written: Really? I thought it was a country founded on freedom of religion.

No, I don't think that's quite right. The country was founded on freedom for religion, not freedom from religion — which is what the "wall of separation" crowd are pushing, in the name of freedom of religion.

When you boil it all down, the wall-of-separation model of freedom of religion means religion can have no legitimate support or protection from government (or the state) in any way, shape, or form. Which means our freedom for religion cannot be guaranteed by the Constitution at all — even if the Framers and the We the People wanted religious liberty to be guaranteed and deliberately put such a provision in the First Amendment of the Bill of Rights. First Amendment would be "unconstitutional" on this model — because it negatively protects free religious exercise by restraining the government from violating it.

See? The government is still involved with religion here. Evidently the wall of separation crowd demand that all government involvement, positive (establishment clause) or negative (free exercise clause), must end.

So much for freedom of religion.... JMHO FWIW.

Thank you so much for the ping, metmom, to your excellent essay/post!

22 posted on 05/09/2010 12:26:04 PM PDT by betty boop (Nil desperandum.)
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To: metmom
it was founded on Judeo-Christian principles

What is the source of your belief that any principles other than Christian principles were instrumental in the founding of America?

The Constitution founded the government and religion is not a part of the government so one cannot say that any religion founded the government. The Constitution acknowledged that its citizens may hold religious beliefs but beliefs held by the elected could not trump the government’s function.

All that can be learned of the history of America and its founders point directly and only to Christianity for the founding of the nation. When did Judeo principles enter in to the founding of this nation?

26 posted on 05/09/2010 5:13:35 PM PDT by MosesKnows (Love many, Trust few, and always paddle your own canoe)
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To: metmom

Amen! Founded on Ten Commandments and the Golden Rule. FRegards ....


28 posted on 05/10/2010 6:14:52 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (We knew deep down it was this bad. Devour ugly truths with glee -- truth is our weapon.)
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