Conservatives throwing away allies by ZOTting gay trolls.

This is another instance of breaking the Fourth Wall, but we want to share something that happens consistently to us that we’re just incredibly puzzled by, since we don’t see how behavior like this helps in any way to remove the current president and his corrupt party from power.

That’s our goal, see, and it’s something we are putting everything we have into. We put everything we had into stopping Obama from becoming president from 2007-2008 because we knew what he would do to this country. We did everything we could to stop him in the primaries. We put aside all of our preconceptions and personal bad feelings for the Republican Party and started up Democrats for McCain efforts — in Chicago, of all places — to do all we could to stop him from winning the general election. Post-election, we’ve done everything we could to rally as many people out there as possible to thwart his insane plans as much as possible. We do this because we love this country and do not want to see it go backwards — or, worse, to fall into ruin like Greece or other failed European, South American, or African states, the way this president wants the United States to become “just one of 190 countries in the world”. We truly believe this man wants to abdicate America’s, and the West’s, supremacy in the world…which benefits only this country’s enemies, most especially the would-be Global Caliphate of Islam.

So, we’ve put everything on the line to do everything we can every day to defeat Democrats in the coming November elections, always with an eye on making sure Obama does not get a second term in 2012. The Democrat Party needs to be taken down, completely destroyed, with the Earth salted so that Leftists can never again have so much sway over our government.

To say we are pretty committed is an understatement. These efforts have cost us everything, but it’s all worth it if we can help in any way to foil Obama’s plans.

So, considering all of this, it’s head-scratchingly bizarre that we are routinely attacked not just by the Left (which has reason to attack us), but the Right as well.

We’ve told you this before, about threads we read on Redstate and Ace of Spades, where moderators allow anti-gay comments to flourish — and there’s a decision made behind the scenes, clearly, to allow homophobia to run rampant on sites such as these which have a policy of banning people who bring up Birtherism or Trutherism and other things Redstate and Ace have decided they do not want to be associated with. So, when comments that are anti-gay are allowed to stand, while others are purposefully removed because they embarrass those sites, we have no other conclusion to draw other than Redstate and Ace believe homophobia is hilariously funny and something they want to embrace with relish.

It’s the same garbage over at Free Republic as well. Check out this thread, where someone posted a link to the Ann Coulter piece we did a few days ago.

It is almost instantly filled up with the most sophomoric, vile anti-gay jokes and sentiment imaginable.

Thankfully, some commenters scolded those responsible, but there really is a sickness amongst some people who call themselves both “religious” and “conservative”, who enjoy posting pictures with a “fudge-packing” theme.

We’d like to address this for a minute, while also giving some pushback to the apocryphal meme on the Right that enjoys attacking PUMAs and paradoxically blaming us for a McCain defeat in 2008 (when more Democrats voted for McCain than voted for Reagan in 1980…meanwhile, 6 million Republicans sat their sorry butts home because McCain was not “Reagan” enough for them, so they allowed what they claimed would be “Carter II” to become president, insisting he wouldn’t “be that bad”. Jackasses).

First of all, if you, in the year 2010, are making fudge-packing jokes, there’s a 99% chance you are gay yourself and either won’t admit it, are terrified of someone figuring you out, or you are too stupid or too much of an alcoholic to accept your own reality.

Those jokes aren’t funny, guys. Maybe they were before the advent of the internet, television, or even the radio. Maybe they were funny before people could read and write. Heck, there are people out there who think Carrot Top and Cedric the Entertainer are funny, so it’s true there is no accounting for taste. But, posting a picture of a fudge-factory to randomly take a swipe at gay guys — WHO ARE ON YOUR SIDE — is just so pointless and counterproductive.

Just how gay are YOU that you need to seize every possible opportunity to take a smack against someone else who’s gay?

Because we picture you sneaking into your mother’s basement, where you still live, at 42, and gingerly pulling back the old plaid blanket you use as a room divider. You creep behind the curtain and carefully unstack piles of Sports Illustrateds and Playboys you use as camouflage, to reveal hidden plastic milk crates full of all your treasures: the complete collected works of Barbara Streisand on mint-condition vinyl, vintage muscle posing strap catalogs from the 50s, your Charlie Crist for Senate campaign memorabilia, and an admittedly impressive collection of My Little Ponies. You won’t admit to your mother or anyone else that you are secretly gay, and you think nobody on Earth knows about your secret stash. You honestly believe no one suspects the reason you don’t have a girlfriend is that you “just haven’t met the right one yet”, and you think people really buy “it’s the economy, and I’m just saving up for a downpayment on a place” as the reason you still live with your mother. At 42. In her basement. While playing with dolls.

So, of course, to deflect attention off yourself, you seize every opportunity available to you to “rag on dem fags”. Hence, your fudge-packing photos.

Which also ties into the weird attacks on PUMAs that still turn up on sites like Free Republic.

John McCain would be president today if 6 million Republicans hadn’t sat their sorry butts home on Election Day 2008, “to teach the GOP a lesson”. It’s as simple as that, folks. He lost states by the slimmest of margins because Republicans did not give him the support they gave to George W. Bush in 2004. Meanwhile, more Democrats crossed the aisle and voted for McCain/Palin than ever before in history. There were more Democrats for McCain/Palin than there were Reagan Democrats in 1980. We at HillBuzz are not anomalous. In every state where we have friends and family, people who voted Democrat blindly their entire lives pulled the lever for McCain/Palin and thus cast a Republican ballot for the first time ever. It was an immense culture shock to do so — like an all expenses paid sojourn to BizarroWorld in many cases, but we did it.

George Soros and the others behind the September financial meltdown gave Obama a lock on the election — when coupled with those 6 million conservatives who sat on the couches, in their diapers, and refused to vote for McCain. That is established fact.

Obama did not win, as the MSM loves to insist, because of an overwhelming surge of black, college-age, and first time immigrant voters that will guarantee Democrats a permanent majority forever. That is Orwellian propaganda from the Ministry of Truth, aka, our agenda-driven national media. Obama won because conservatives let him win. Conservatives dropped the ball and sat their sorry butts home.

You can continue to bizarrely attack Democrats who crossed the aisle to vote for McCain all you want, but you look insane doing it. Your argument is untenable and ridiculous, and goes something like: ”It’s all those PUMAs fault. There weren’t enough of them to make up for the 6 million conservatives who didn’t vote, so I hate PUMAs and gays are all fudge-packers and uh, Ma, I’m on the Internet, leave me alone, NO! I don’t want any more Fruit Roll-Ups. GEEEEESH!”.

You are a closeted gay male who is self-hated, so you project this by posting “fudge-packing” photos attacking gays.

You are a loser conservative who sat his ass home in 2008 “to teach the GOP a lesson” and now realize how mentally ill you were, so you project the contempt you feel for your self and your incredibly poor decisions on Democrats like us who did everything we could — at immense persona cost — to stop Obama from becoming president and destroying this country.

What did you do in the 2008 campaign to help Republicans win? We bet you sat your ass on the couch, or maybe you spent your time on message boards telling other conservatives they should stay home on election day “to teach the GOP a lesson”. That’s been your ridiculous, pathetic little mantra for umpteen years now. And yet, you have no idea how intensely foolish you are…because the DNC is what’s always been encouraging that garbage. It only helps the Left to think that way, or to do off on one of your insane third-party Libertarian jags. ”Keep it up”, the DNC cheers, “this is how we keep winning elections when only 20% of the country is Liberal, but damn near 60% of the conservative base is foolish enough to fall for this amateur hour garbage!”.

We’d like to see a day when Redstate, Ace of Spade, Free Republic, and other conservative sites wise up and start policing their comments and content for anti-gay attacks, the same as they moderate for racist jabs. We’re 100% positive posters would be banned for making racial jokes, using the “n-word”, and posting images relating to anti-black stereotypes. The fudge-packing tripe was acceptable to sites like this, but we’re sure pictures of watermelon eating contests or lynchings would be verboten. As they should be.

The real irony in all of this is just how much damage conservatives do to themselves by attacking gays — and they don’t even realize it.

Lesbians, in particular, are naturally conservative, but the Right doesn’t realize this. Ever go shopping with a lesbian? It’s an all-day, sometimes all-week process, to find the best deal on something. Lesbians will drive hours out of their way to save $10 on something, if they calculate the gas mileage and wear on the car comes out to $7.00 or less for the trip, if they net a $1.50 savings at least on that item, they are buying it clear across town. They are like this with everything. It’s amazing. They honestly should be Republicans — every last one of them, from Ellen down to Rosie with every lesbian in between. Republicans one and all.

The reason they aren’t Republicans is because they don’t feel welcome in the GOP, because of the very loud and vocal anti-gay contingent, particularly those that call themselves “religious”. So, women who should be voting their economic best interests…who should not be paying enormous taxes as property owners to fund the graft and corruption that benefits only the black community and other Democrat pet voting blocs (because, face it, the DNC does not send any money to lesbians, and does not fund any largesse in the LGBTQ community…which is an island left to fend for itself at all times)…consistently vote Democrat because they don’t really have another option.

People making those fudge-packing, anti-gay remarks take that option away from them.

The same is true for gay men, but they are not as sensible and financially savvy as lesbians. Gay men don’t care what happens to their money, by and large, and often spend their entire paychecks the weekend of pay day. We wish that wasn’t true, but it is. So, before they can vote in their economic best interests they need a better handle on economics in general. What keeps them voting Democrat is the fact that Redstate, Ace of Spades, Free Republic, and other sites keep reinforcing all the boogeyman stereotypes the Left puts out about Republicans. 99% of gay men believe everything they hear Anderson Cooper or Keith Olbermann say on TV. ”Republicans are evil, Brenden, I heard it from some guy who saw it on TV.” ”Oh, I know, Brenden #2, they are so evil. I heard from someone who said he was told by the guy at the Starbucks, you know, the really cute one, that those religious people hate us and make those fudge-packer jokes, and so I just hate them back and anyone who is gay that votes Republican is a Jewish Nazi”. ”Oh, Brenden, that’s totally deep.” ”I know, right, Coop said it the other day, and he’s just totally dreamy”.

We wish we were kidding. That’s practically an actual conversation in Boystown.

Gay men don’t stop to think about how much voting Republican would benefit them, because the Left has effectively prevented them from ever considering the option by promoting the meme that gay men voting GOP are “Jewish Nazis”…and are only giving support to the ignorant, bigoted, loudmouth, “religious” idiots like those posting that fudge-packing photo.

So, every time a conservative lets one of these people get away with that garbage — and every time Redstate, Ace, or Free Republic allows a photo like that to be displayed and an attitude like that to stand — you are only helping the Left.

We could write 25,000 more words on the subject, and we still won’t be able to come up with any way to get that to sink in for those of you out there who are either too stupid or too blind to realize this — BUT YOU ARE CONSISTENTLY ALIENATING NATURAL ALLIES WHEN YOU ALLOW HOMOPHOBIA TO STAND UNCHALLENGED IN CONSERVATIVE RANKS.

2008 proved, definitively, that a few votes here and there make all the difference in the world.

We all know nothing will ever magically increase the intelligence of conservative voters who choose to sit home and let someone like Obama win, because they want “to teach the GOP a lesson”. These people have serious mental problems if they really believe that’s what they are accomplishing. You might as well just consider those fools to be Democrat votes all along.

BUT, we truly believe in 10-15 years a sizable portion of the LGBTQ vote could indeed be going to the GOP — if only these ignorant bigots would stop handing these votes to the Left by encouraging and promoting the stereotypical hate the Left uses to paint conservatives as boogeymen.

There is truly no reason on Earth for a conservative to ever attack us here at HillBuzz.

If your goal is to defeat every Democrat in office currently, then we are on your side.

If your goal is to see Sarah Palin in the White House, then we are on your side.

If you’re one of those khaki pants and blue blazer little Romney punks, then we’re kind of your worst nightmare because we’re going to make sure he, Tim Pawlenty, Mitch Daniels, and other cucumbers-and-mayonnaise bland losers do NOT get the GOP nomination.

But, if you’re a firebrand, take-no-prisoners, in-your-face, boot-the-socialists-from-office conservative, then we hope you have sense enough to accept an ally that’s not only ready and willing to fight to the end — but who is battle-tested, field-trained, and runs a daily operation with readership in the tens of thousands and is laser-focused on defeating the absolute worst president this nation has ever had.

We understand the hits we take from the Left on a daily basis — clearly, we are effective on some level, or they would just leave us alone and ignore us. The fact we’re such a high target for them must mean we’re doing something right.

We really wish those of you out there who frequent Redstate, Ace, and Free Republic would put a stop to that garbage. Trolls can indeed be banned. They should be banned.

If your goal is to win in 2010 and in 2012, we just can’t see the logic in alienating any allies…and, longterm, we just don’t understand why you want to keep throwing away the LGBTQ vote when the only thing you have to do to start winning it is to just stop the sophomoric hate and insipid anti-gay jokes.

Cut that crap out, initiate zero tolerance policies towards it, and win more elections.

>>> So, every time a conservative lets one of these people get away with that garbage — and every time Redstate, Ace, or Free Republic allows a photo like that to be displayed and an attitude like that to stand — you are only helping the Left.

Yes.

>>> Making gay jokes doesn’t make one secretly gay, any more than making Polack jokes makes one Polish.

Agreed, but both for much the same reasons are clear indications of being a horses ass.

Some people never get it. The reason this country is in trouble are the slew of different special interest groups that want to be pandered to.

Why is it everyone has to know a person is gay, or black, or white, or pick your own group.

Either you believe in the country set down by the founders as a whole or you don’t.

All this resentment is caused by groups of people who think that being noticed and elevated by force, or by blackmail validates their lifestyle. What I see here is a kind of “embrace my personal lifestyle choices or I will make you pay mentality”.

Live your life, love your country and accept that we all are never going to think alike on everything. One thing we can agree on is keeping America home of freedom and liberty.

Somewhere I must be missing that page of the Constitution where people have a right to never be offended and always be compensated because our feelings are hurt.

Yes. Christianity does teach homosexual acts are sins. But that isn’t license to denigrate and mock anyone. The point of the faith is to want to best for others—to express caritas.

Can’t find it but Hillbuzz alluded to this in one essay. A Texan, as I recall, told one of them “You boys ain’t right in the head. You need to find yourself a good woman”.

They got it. This Texan was expressing caritas. He wanted the best for them. The Texan got his point across and they were not put off.

Cultural marxists do not want this. They do not want straights to express charity and do not want gays to understand many (the vast majority in my opinion) people are not motivated by “hate”. Leftists incite people to denigrate gays and lesbians rather than show caritas. Cultural marxists play the same game among the races. They do it so they can run to these groups and say, “Look...look...these people HATE you...they want you dead...we’ll protect you”.

we just don’t understand why you want to keep throwing away the LGBTQ vote when the only thing you have to do to start winning it is to just stop the sophomoric hate and insipid anti-gay jokes

d55may, my fellow Freepers humor often offends me (right after I recover from stomach hurting laughter...you have to admit some of these guys are really funny). I can see where the humor is hurtful and inappropriate and counterproductive. However, putting humor aside there is the larger issue of the culture clash. Yes, apparently we have a common denominator to turn the country back to principles that make this country great. Unfortunately, although you agree about financial principles you see moral principles differently. We believe that the moral principles, including the traditional biblical sexual principles, are the very foundation that made us a great nation. Without these principles there can be no conservative financial principles, no economic only conservatives. Without a moral people it is impossible to have a moral financial country.

I understand that gays and lesbians have both religious and political leaders that have helped them rationalize that biblical leaders and scripture are wrong and that man has evolved and that gay and lesbianism is normal. You know and they know in their hearts that they are wrong. You are living a lie and that lie will forever remove the joy that you and others like you deserve.

Yes, the jokes are not helpful. We should be reaching out to you with love and with the message that there is acceptance that God loves you and desires a relationship with you. Yes, that relationship will change you but the cost will be a heart filled with joy.

Aw come on Jim, I am sure he is right about Ellen and Rosie being closet conservatives... /sarcasm

ROFLOL

Rosie a conservative... Miss ‘9-11 was an inside job’ herself.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiggggggggggggghhhhhhhhttttttt

Rolling eyes.

Yes, there are some folks that go too far, but if you see it, just report it to the mods.

Well, I've never seen anybody here advocating killing queers, that, in my opinion would be "too far".

In Uganda and the mooselimb countries of the middle east, they don't think that's too far though.

I do not have a poor understanding of liberty or history.

I just think you should let people do what they want in their own bedrooms. If you disagree and you want to police it by using government or otherwise that’s fine, but then don’t pretend to be in favor of liberty.

Whatever floats your boat. Just stop demanding my affirmation and approval and quit with the name calling and accusations when I won’t give it.

Yeah! Ping! Bump! To what you said. We are not required to provide anyone with affirmation and approval for behavior. That is the lifestyle they chose, I don't have to approve of it.

In fact it is my Right to be offended by it, so there.

Let me ask you this.

If you think that God disapproves of gay people, do you also think that God disapproves of gay people voting for conservative candidates?

Because that is really the crux of the matter. My point is, it doesn’t really matter what you think about the first part of my question. Its the second part that’s important.

Whether or not you think that God disapproves of gay people, you should still be able to see that gay people voting for conservatives is a good thing. All I’m saying is don’t discourage it. That’s all. I’m not saying you need to approve or disapprove of their lifestyle. You can remove the question of their lifestyle from the equation entirely, because in this country, if they have the sense to vote for a conservative, then they should vote for a conservative.

That’s probably true, but he would have smote a much more financial-solvent body politic.

And that would have been something to their credit.

In all seriousness, there is a moral element to a body politic that is financially solvent.

If you have a group of people who manifest the attitude, through their elected officials, that they can just borrow and borrow and never repay, that does in fact does say something about the moral underpinning of that group of people. It says something about their relationship with reality.

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