The fact is there is no reason for a forgery. The state of Hawaii recognizes Obama as being born there. They would issue a COLB which shows that. Whether the document that was floated around is legitimate doesn’t matter. All that matters is what his original birth certificate shows. If I had to bet, I would bet it shows it was turned in by his grandma on August 4, 1961. It showed up in the papers, so something was turned in.
Hawaii is actually forbidden from even saying what is on Obama’s birth certificate unless they disclose the actual birth certificate itself, a verification, or index data, as authorized by HRS 338-18 and by DOH rules.
And even if they revealed the birth certificate itself, no legal conclusion regarding the accuracy of what’s on the BC can be made unless and until the actual birth certificate is presented to a judicial or administrative person or body as evidence - and Hawaii law requires that the document NOT be treated as prima facie evidence (which means that the burden of proof falls to Obama to prove his claims accurate, rather than on someone else to prove his claims inaccurate). That’s what HRS 338-17 says.
There is a reason for a forgery. The real BC almost certainly has a 2006 certificate number and it also has note of the amendment made in 2006, which is most likely an addition to the medical portion of the BC in order to complete the BC.
The only reason the BC wouldn’t have been completed in 1961 is if Obama was not available to be examined by a Hawaii doctor who would then have completed the BC. Obama has a real COLB; the reason he won’t show it is because the COLB itself raises serious questions about where Obama was born even though the BC claims he was born in Hawaii.
Cooper had no answer as to why Obama won’t show his real COLB. I’ve put in many, many hours researching this and compiling information from Hawaii laws, rules, and officials. This is the answer I am almost positive is correct. It is about the only answer that makes sense - and that matches the data we have.
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No doctor or hospital name: I would also bet there are no doctor name or signature and no hospital name on it.
DUH and we should believe grandma? That is the whole question who was the informant and witnesses? A forgery could show a different race for Obie and if the original was amended as it appears to be the colb should indicate that, thus reasons for a forgery....
what in God’s name is wrong with you? are you an American citizen? how old are you? dry up sonny, your anti American BS will not wash. your commie loving hussein friends will I’m sure love your thouughts tho.
To me, what Obama's original birth certificate has on it is irrelevant. What is most relevant is the fact that he is hiding it. What is he hiding?
Forget all of the debate on citizenship, natural born, under age, dual citizenship,,,etc. He is clearly hiding SOMETHING. What is it?
“Whether the document that was floated around is legitimate doesn’t matter.” - AR
So, you hold the position that Obama’s campaign posting a forged COLB on their own website is irrelevant?
If they had a real one why would they post a forgery?
Why no “corrected” COLB posted? (They have had plenty of time.)