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Could Obama be girding for a healthcare repeal fight?
RedState ^ | May 7, 2010 | Bill S.

Posted on 05/07/2010 3:37:08 PM PDT by fightinJAG

The NYT reports this morning that Barack Obama, like many presidents before him, is now seeking line-item veto authority.

President Obama, in his latest effort to signal fiscal responsibility against the rising debt, plans this month to ask Congress to give him and future presidents greater power to try to delete individual items from spending bills.

In doing so, Mr. Obama will join a long line of his predecessors who have sought either line-item veto power or, after the Supreme Court in 1998 ruled such a veto unconstitutional, some other rescission authority that passes muster. Congress once again is unlikely to be receptive, though growing antidebt sentiment could give the proposal life.

Of course cynics like me would say “Now why would someone who has racked up a trillion or two in debt be suddenly interested in vetoing spending items from his own party?” The answer, I believe, is: “he isn’t.” The more likely scenario is that Obama is preparing for an increasingly-likely GOP takeover of the House and Senate, and (more importantly) he may be positioning to fight Republican efforts to repeal the now-passed healthcare “reform” legislation.

Since Obama is certain to veto any legislation to repeal HCR, the only real way for Republicans to push through a rollback would be to attach repeal measures to spending bills that Obama would not be likely to veto in total. A line-item veto would provide the means to cut those items while leaving spending intact. Now if a GOP-controlled Congress simply fails to fund HCR items, this obviously is irrelevant, since he could not veto what does not exist. But if the Republicans used other means to repeal, the line-item veto could provide Obama the ability to eliminate them.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: healthbill; lawsusuits; obamacare; staterights

1 posted on 05/07/2010 3:37:08 PM PDT by fightinJAG
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To: fightinJAG

Hey!

Finally, there is one thing that I can agree with Zer0!

(Not that he would use the authority wisely.)


2 posted on 05/07/2010 3:40:26 PM PDT by Noob1999 (LOOSE LIPS, SINK SHIPS)
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To: Noob1999

Actually...just to avoid funding various piece and parts of it...basically kills off the entire mess. If the IRS doesn’t get additional manpower...things go downhill fast.


3 posted on 05/07/2010 3:50:13 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: fightinJAG

he better be

because its coming

or at least IT BETTER GODDAMWELL BE COMING REPUBLICANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


4 posted on 05/07/2010 3:54:25 PM PDT by Mr. K (This administration IS WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY!)
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To: fightinJAG

he better be

because its coming

or at least IT BETTER GODDAMWELL BE COMING REPUBLICANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


5 posted on 05/07/2010 3:54:25 PM PDT by Mr. K (This administration IS WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY!)
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To: fightinJAG
He'd better be girding for a fight in the streets.

At the rate he and his ilk are moving, that may be the unpleasant result of his actions

6 posted on 05/07/2010 4:00:19 PM PDT by llevrok (TEA wakes up America !)
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To: fightinJAG

Repeal is irrelevant! Any federal version of health care is unconstitutional since Article 1 Section 8 does not specifically grant Congress the power to regulate health care! The people are not bound to comply with an unconstitutional act!


7 posted on 05/07/2010 4:13:18 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: fightinJAG

bttt


8 posted on 05/07/2010 4:25:10 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: fightinJAG
"after the Supreme Court in 1998 ruled such a veto unconstitutional, some other rescission authority that passes muster"

There's NO SUCH THING!

Why does this keep coming up every 10-15years? It's contrary to the Constitution. Period.

9 posted on 05/07/2010 4:37:14 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: Mariner

“Contrary to the Constitution” defines this bumbling administration.


10 posted on 05/07/2010 5:33:10 PM PDT by JerseyDvl (The Obama Doctrine in 6 words - Embolden Enemies, Abandon Allies, WEAKEN AMERICA.)
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To: fightinJAG
Gird the turd!

Dat homey goin' down!

Waaaaayyyyy Down.

11 posted on 05/07/2010 6:09:29 PM PDT by Candor7 (Now's the time to ante up against the Obama Facist Junta (Member NRA))
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To: Man50D

Still, repeal would be nice. Although this article floats the idea that it might be better for the GOP to simply refuse to fund Obamacare. Then they don’t have to enact anything and there is nothing to veto.

I suppose this could be done as a stop-gap measure until we get a new president.


12 posted on 05/07/2010 6:34:58 PM PDT by fightinJAG (Sic semper tyrannis! Stop spending. Starve the beast.)
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To: Man50D

>Repeal is irrelevant! Any federal version of health care is unconstitutional since Article 1 Section 8 does not specifically grant Congress the power to regulate health care! The people are not bound to comply with an unconstitutional act!
88

I agree, but there’s the other ignorant, idiotic half of America that once they see IRS, they start to piss their pants. Repeal is needed as well..


13 posted on 05/07/2010 7:22:48 PM PDT by max americana
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
Of course cynics like me would say "Now why would someone who has racked up a trillion or two in debt be suddenly interested in vetoing spending items from his own party?" The answer, I believe, is: "he isn't." The more likely scenario is that Obama is preparing for an increasingly-likely GOP takeover of the House and Senate, and (more importantly) he may be positioning to fight Republican efforts to repeal the now-passed healthcare "reform" legislation.

14 posted on 05/07/2010 7:48:20 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: fightinJAG

Line item veto is just as unconstitutional as Barry’s signature on anything.

If he wants a line item veto, he can return a bill intact and recommend it come back for signature without the offending piece.

Otherwise, why have legislation, from a supposedly deliberative body, that has co-equal powers and can check anything from the White House.

Either he sign in full a bill or it is not a bill.

Either his citizenship at birth was whole or it was divided.


15 posted on 05/07/2010 9:48:56 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Mr. K

What do you mean? /s/s/s


16 posted on 05/07/2010 9:49:25 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Mariner

“No controlling authority...”


17 posted on 05/07/2010 9:50:02 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: fightinJAG

Line-Item veto or no, there is little Obama could do if a GOP House simply refused to fund Obamacare or refused to pay the salaries of Obamacare staff.
There is no way to veto a “line” that doesn’t exist.


18 posted on 05/07/2010 10:05:10 PM PDT by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: Redbob

Agreed, and I think that’s an idea worth mulling. However, the politics of the matter probably make refusing to fund Obamacare a higher mountain to climb than even repeal. I could be wrong about that, obviously. I guess the bottom line is, though, that what strategy is settled upon will be influenced by what is politically possible at the time as well.


19 posted on 05/08/2010 7:04:31 AM PDT by fightinJAG (Is it okay to wear an American flag t-shirt in America on Jamhuri Day?)
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To: Mr. K

My mama always told me that folks who take the Lord’s name in vain are peabrains.


20 posted on 05/08/2010 10:48:42 AM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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