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ThyssenKrupp, OSHA, examine lead paint issues at Calvert, Ala. plant site
al.com ^ | May 06, 2010, 7:47PM | Jeff Amy

Posted on 05/07/2010 9:45:16 AM PDT by suthener

MOBILE, Ala. -- Federal workplace safety and ThyssenKrupp AG officials are investigating how some equipment at the sprawling Calvert complex came to be coated with lead-bearing paint, and whether any workers have been exposed to lead.

Lead paint is outlawed in homes in the United States because the element, when ingested, can cause blood and brain disorders. But it's still allowed in some commercial and industrial paints domestically. Internationally, lead remains common in paint, and much of ThyssenKrupp's equipment is imported.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: osha; thyssenkrupp
I read this this morning and thought it about it due to another thread about the government exagerating cancer risks from chemicals. Basically, TK had the presence of mind to check the paint for lead, the presence of mind to notify it's employees, and then a subcontractor employee makes an OSHA complaint and they start an investigation. This despite the fact that unless they weld, burn, or grind on the brand new equipment, or someone chips off a piece and eats it, there is no exposure and therefore no OSHA issue.

Like I said on the other thread, one day we will all work for OSHA or the EPA.

1 posted on 05/07/2010 9:45:16 AM PDT by suthener
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To: suthener

As long as they are not sanding the paint and the employees are not eating paint chips, they should be alright.


2 posted on 05/07/2010 9:49:36 AM PDT by dangerdoc
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To: suthener

Someone would be getting fired.


3 posted on 05/07/2010 10:13:56 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: dangerdoc; suthener

They’d have to be really hungry first. It takes a lot of lead to make you sick.

Doc, you know, dose makes the poison.


4 posted on 05/07/2010 10:17:52 AM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

Lead paint has a pretty high concentration of lead, in kids, they can get pretty sick eating a small amount of paint chips.

I don’t thing adults would get in trouble eating chips, but I have seen a guy that was in bad shape, he was using a cutting torch at a scrap yard cutting up bridge pieces that had been painted with lead paint.

However, that being said, if the paint in intact and they aren’t turning it into respirable particles, it shouldn’t cause anybody any harm.


5 posted on 05/07/2010 10:31:07 AM PDT by dangerdoc
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To: suthener
Krupp, now where have we heard that name before...Bueller?, anyone?, anyone?
6 posted on 05/07/2010 10:58:41 AM PDT by Red Dog #1
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To: dangerdoc

From a 1923 coloring book for kids,

“The Dutch Boy’s Lead Party”

The girl and boy felt very blue
Their toys were old and shabby too,
They couldn’t play in such a place,
The room was really a disgrace.

This famous Dutch Boy Lead of mine
Can make this playroom fairly shine
Let’s start our painting right away
You’ll find the work is only play.


7 posted on 05/07/2010 11:01:02 AM PDT by Flash Bazbeaux
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To: Flash Bazbeaux

Newsflash! High amounts of lead found in car batteries! Do not ingest car batteries!


8 posted on 05/07/2010 12:02:48 PM PDT by Moltke (DOPE will get you 4 to 8 in the Big House - HOPE will get you 4 to 8 in the White House.)
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To: Red Dog #1
Krupp, now where have we heard that name before...Bueller?, anyone?, anyone?

"Zäh wie Leder, schnell wie Windhunde, hart wie Kruppstahl!"...?

9 posted on 05/07/2010 12:08:01 PM PDT by Moltke (DOPE will get you 4 to 8 in the Big House - HOPE will get you 4 to 8 in the White House.)
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To: Moltke

My Mom would never let me eat the lead until I had drunk all the electrolyte, so I passed on the whole thing.


10 posted on 05/07/2010 1:42:59 PM PDT by Flash Bazbeaux
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To: dangerdoc

I own an environmental consulting company, and make my money helping employers comply with the asbestos/lead/OSHA/EPA and other myriad regulations. When I was a kid, I chewed my pencils. The lead in pencils was not in the lead (graphite), but in the paint. It actually creates a craving once you get a taste of it (your body thinks it’s calcium), which is why kids chew on window sills or other lead-painted surfaces. The paint on my pencils didn’t last an hour. It is a problem when kids are exposed (their bodies are developing and store more of it in their bones and teeth), but adults don’t typically suffer any harm (elevated BLL’s) unless they’re blasting, sanding, or torching paint. The real way to protect kids is to maintain painted surfaces so they don’t chip or peel.


11 posted on 05/07/2010 1:54:21 PM PDT by TStro
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Some of the newer studies suggest neurologic damage at levels well below the acceptable BLL in adults.

I was a medical director at a battery plant ages ago and it was a constant battle keeping the levels down in the employees. We had one employee that would have elevations in his BLL when he was on medical removal, luckily, he eventually persued a carreer outside the lead battery industry.

Thankfully I moved on before they introduced their improved lead cadmium alloy batteries, that one gave me nightmares.


12 posted on 05/07/2010 2:01:33 PM PDT by dangerdoc
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To: Moltke
""Zäh wie Leder, schnell wie Windhunde, hart wie Kruppstahl!"...?"

I believe that translates to..Hard as Krupp Steel, tough as leather and fast as greyhounds.

BTW, have you ever read The Arms of Krupp by William Manchester?

13 posted on 05/07/2010 11:16:51 PM PDT by Red Dog #1
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To: Red Dog #1

Correct translation.

No, haven’t read the Manchester book. I’ll take a look at it, thanks for the pointer.


14 posted on 05/08/2010 9:36:24 AM PDT by Moltke (DOPE will get you 4 to 8 in the Big House - HOPE will get you 4 to 8 in the White House.)
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To: suthener

On another note, did you hear about the recycling plant somewhere near Chicago that had to pay a fine of somewhere near $750K for mercury contamination from the compact fluorescent light bulbs?


15 posted on 05/08/2010 9:38:38 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: aruanan

No, I didn’t. Do you have a link? Thanks.


16 posted on 05/09/2010 5:40:18 AM PDT by suthener
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No, I didn’t. Do you have a link? Thanks.

I heard it on WLS-AM radio news.
17 posted on 05/09/2010 5:45:51 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Red Dog #1
Krupp

Thyssen is also a German steel company....Thyssen and Krupp merged back in 1997

FWIW, I'm retired from TK and worked at the corp. hdqtrs in Troy, MI

18 posted on 05/09/2010 5:49:18 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Peanut butter was just peanut butter until I found Free Republic.........)
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To: suthener

EPA has come to stand for Economic Prevention Agency.


19 posted on 05/09/2010 5:57:21 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: Flash Bazbeaux

LOL! Nice.


20 posted on 05/09/2010 5:58:29 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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