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Western troops to meet Russian missiles on Red Square
Zeenews.com ^ | 5/06/2010 | Zeenews.com

Posted on 05/06/2010 9:39:09 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld

Troops from four NATO states will march through Red Square for the first time Sunday as Russia marks the 65th anniversary of the World War II victory with its biggest parade since the Soviet collapse.

In a moment of huge symbolism, soldiers from Britain, France, Poland and the United States will step onto the square's famed cobbles while Russia proudly displays nuclear-capable missiles that once threatened Western targets.

With Russia seeking to trumpet its post-Soviet resurgence, 10,000 Russian troops and military hardware including nuclear-capable Topol-M missiles will take part in a finely choreographed parade that has been months in rehearsal.

Authorities are making a huge effort to promote the event to ensure Russians and foreigners never forget the Soviet Union's wartime sacrifices. Moscow is already festooned with red banners marking the anniversary.

Foreign dignitaries attending the event will include Chinese President Hu Jintao, French President Nicolas Sarkozy, German Chancellor Angela Merkel and the heads of state of almost all the ex-Soviet nations.

(Excerpt) Read more at zeenews.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: easterneurope; moscow; nato; redsquare; russia; wwii
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1 posted on 05/06/2010 9:39:09 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: sonofstrangelove

This is B S.


2 posted on 05/06/2010 9:43:38 PM PDT by unkus
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To: unkus

Look at the bright side.It gives an opportunity to see their new missiles up close and personal. Maybe take some pictures for U.S. intelligence purposes


3 posted on 05/06/2010 9:44:56 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: unkus

No. It’s a step in the right direction. One of the only things that Obama is doing right.


4 posted on 05/06/2010 9:49:42 PM PDT by duckln
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To: sonofstrangelove

Maybe so, but they probably won’t be parading all their best stuff.

No 0bama? He probably sent a “Best Wishes” card.


5 posted on 05/06/2010 9:50:33 PM PDT by unkus
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To: unkus

But it gives us a rare opportunity to see their hardware and determine its quality.


6 posted on 05/06/2010 9:51:55 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: sonofstrangelove
The following photos are from the 2008 event...

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"the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the [20th] century" -Russian leader Vladimir Putin on the collapse of the Soviet Union...
"World democratic opinion has yet to realize the alarming implications of President Vladimir Putin's State of the Union speech on April 25, 2005, in which he said that the collapse of the Soviet Union represented the 'greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century.'
http://www.hooverdigest.org/053/beichman.html

7 posted on 05/06/2010 9:53:45 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: sonofstrangelove

I hope our guys are thorough.


8 posted on 05/06/2010 9:54:27 PM PDT by unkus
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To: unkus
This is B S.

Yet true, unfortunately.

9 posted on 05/06/2010 9:54:47 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: duckln

One of the only things that Obama is doing right.


I wouldn’t trust 0bama as far as I could throw a thousand Koran’s. 0bama does absolutely >nothing< that is right for America!


10 posted on 05/06/2010 9:57:13 PM PDT by unkus
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To: unkus

There will be a lot of cameras brought by NATO taking a lot of pictures of Russian military hardware. Its James Bond dream.


11 posted on 05/06/2010 9:58:34 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: duckln
Just about everything Obama does foreign-policy-wise is to appease KGB Putin and the Russians. From his "no nukes" pledge to his scrapping of missile defense and his promise to cut back on weapons development and the space program.

From the campaign trail, February 2008...

Obama Pledges Cuts in Missile Defense, Space, and Nuclear Weapons Programs

February 29, 2008 :: News
MissileThreat.com

A video has surfaced of Presidential candidate Senator Barack Obama talking on his plans for strategic issues such as nuclear weapons and missile defense.

The full text from the video, as released, reads as follows:

Thanks so much for the Caucus4Priorities, for the great work you've been doing. As president, I will end misguided defense policies and stand with Caucus4Priorities in fighting special interests in Washington.

First, I'll stop spending $9 billion a month in Iraq. I'm the only major candidate who opposed this war from the beginning. And as president I will end it.[i.e. not win it]

Second, I will cut tens of billions of dollars in wasteful spending.

I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems.

I will not weaponize space.

I will slow our development of future combat systems.

And I will institute an independent "Defense Priorities Board" to ensure that the Quadrennial Defense Review is not used to justify unnecessary spending.

Third, I will set a goal of a world without nuclear weapons. To seek that goal, I will not develop new nuclear weapons; I will seek a global ban on the production of fissile material; and I will negotiate with Russia to take our ICBMs off hair-trigger alert [they are NOT on "hair-trigger alert" now -etl], and to achieve deep cuts in our nuclear arsenals.

You know where I stand. I've fought for open, ethical and accountable government my entire public life. I don't switch positions or make promises that can't be kept. I don't posture on defense policy and I don't take money from federal lobbyists for powerful defense contractors. As president, my sole priority for defense spending will be protecting the American people. Thanks so much.

Article: Obama Pledges Cuts in Missile Defense, Space, and Nuclear Weapons Programs:
http://missilethreat.com/archives/id.7086/detail.asp

"MissileThreat.com is a project of The Claremont Institute devoted to understanding and promoting the requirements for the strategic defense of the United States."
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"I will not weaponize space"

"I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems"

2008 Pentagon Report (March 2008):
China's Growing Military Space Power

By Leonard David
Special Correspondent, SPACE.com
March 6, 2008

GOLDEN, Colorado — A just-released Pentagon report spotlights a growing U.S. military concern that China is developing a multi- dimensional program to limit or prevent the use of space-based assets by its potential adversaries during times of crisis or conflict.

Furthermore, last year's successful test by China of a direct-ascent, anti-satellite (ASAT) weapon to destroy its own defunct weather satellite, the report adds, underscores that country's expansion from the land, air, and sea dimensions of the traditional battlefield into the space and cyber-space domains.

Although China's commercial space program has utility for non- military research, that capability demonstrates space launch and control know-how that have direct military application. Even the Chang'e 1 — the Chinese lunar probe now circling the Moon — is flagged in the report as showcasing China's ability "to conduct complicated space maneuvers — a capability which has broad implications for military counterspace operations."

To read the entire publication [29.67MB/pdf], see U.S. Dept of Defense:
http://www.defenselink.mil/pubs/pdfs/China_Military_Report_08.pdf
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From the Sino-Russian Joint Statement of April 23, 1997:
"The two sides [China and Russia] shall, in the spirit of partnership, strive to promote the multipolarization of the world and the establishment of a new international order."
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/HI29Ag01.html

12 posted on 05/06/2010 9:59:18 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: sonofstrangelove
Some great photos here from englishrussia.com:

Victory Parade Rehearsal

13 posted on 05/06/2010 10:03:29 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Drew68
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14 posted on 05/06/2010 10:05:34 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Drew68

“Some great photos here from englishrussia.com:”

Numerous vintage T-34/85s and Su-100s in full running order I see..


15 posted on 05/06/2010 10:17:17 PM PDT by wolficatZ (http://www.justin.tv/catawbaskies "WW2 films, documentaries and fun chat all week!")
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To: sonofstrangelove
The Great Patriotic War is remembered every year. And the veterans are dying off but Russia remembers its World War II triumph.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus

16 posted on 05/06/2010 11:29:49 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: sonofstrangelove

17 posted on 05/06/2010 11:54:15 PM PDT by klpt
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To: unkus
I wouldn't’t trust 0bama as far as I could throw a thousand Koran’s.

Now, that statement is idiotic. Fact is, Obama stumbled in this case, on the right course.

Reagan's Defense Department made a big mistake in supporting the head choppers in Afghanistan against the Russians. He should have stayed out. Then Clinton supported these same head choppers in Yugoslavia. All the while, to today, the much bigger enemy is the Islamists. Russia should be our partners, if we hope to defeat the Islamists.

It's a no brainer

18 posted on 05/07/2010 7:47:04 AM PDT by duckln
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To: ETL
With a population of 140 million, minuscule gross national product, huge territories to defend, and longer an ideology to peddle, Russia is not a threat.

Islamists in 'NYC', and their supporters worldwide are.

19 posted on 05/07/2010 8:04:57 AM PDT by duckln
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To: All
Russia and Islam are not Separate:
Why Russia backs Al-Qaeda

By Konstantin Preobrazhensky

Americans generally believe that Russia is afraid of Islamic terrorism as much as the U.S.A. They are reminded of the war in Chechnya, the hostage crisis at the Beslan School in 2004 and at the Moscow Theater in 2002, and of the apartment house blasts in Moscow in 1999, where over 200 people were killed. It is clear that Russians are also targets of terrorism today.

But in all these events, the participation of the FSB, Federal Security Service, inheritor to the KGB, is also clear. Their involvement in the Moscow blasts has been proven by lawyer Mikhail Trepashkin, a former FSB Colonel. For this he was illegally imprisoned, and is now suffering torture and deprivation of medical assistance, from which he is not likely to survive.

A key distinction between Russian and American attitudes towards Islamic terrorism is that while for America terrorism is largely seen as an exterior menace, Russia uses terrorism as an object as a tool of the state for manipulation in and outside the home country. Islamic terrorism is only part of the world of terrorism. Long before Islamic terrorism became a global threat, the KGB had used terrorism to facilitate the victory of world Communism.

This leads to the logical connection between Russian and Islamic terrorism. The late Alexander Litvinenko, poisoned in London in November, 2006, told me that his former FSB colleagues had trained famous Al-Qaeda terrorists Ayman Al-Zawahiri and Juma Namangoniy during the 1980s and 1990s. Ayman Al-Zawahiri, one of the world's most wanted terrorists, has been responsible for the murder of U.S. nationals outside the United States. Before his death, Juma Namangoniy (Jumabai Hojiyev), a native of Soviet Uzbekistan, was a right-hand man of Osama bin Laden in charge of the Taliban's northern front in Afghanistan.

In 1996, Alexander Litvinenko was responsible for securing the secrecy of Al-Zawahiri's arrival in Russia, who was trained by FSB instructors in Dagestan, Northern Caucasus, in 1996-1997.

At that time, Litvinenko was the Head of the Subdivision for Internationally Wanted Terrorists of the First Department of the Operative-Inquiry Directorate of the FSB Anti-Terrorist Department. He was ordered to undertake the delicate mission of securing Al-Zawahiri from unintentional disclosure by the Russian police. Though Al-Zawahiri had been brought to Russia by the FSB using a false passport, it was still possible for the police to learn about his arrival and report to Moscow for verification. Such a process could disclose Al-Zawahiri as an FSB collaborator.

In order to prevent this, Litvinenko visited a group of the highly placed police officers to notify them in advance. "If you get information about some suspicious Arabs arriving in the Caucasus, please report it to me before informing your leadership", he told them.

Juma Namangoniy was once a student of the Saboteur Training Center of the First Chief Directorate of the KGB in 1989-91. The school was notorious for the international terrorists who matriculated from it. It now belongs to the FSB, and since only KGB staff officers were allowed to study there, Juma Namangoniy's presence clearly suggests that he was much more than a civil collaborator.

Mohammed Atta, the pilot of the first plane to crash into the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001, had met with a senior Iraqi intelligence agent in Prague, Czech Republic, five months before the attack. But Iraqi intelligence was just a client of Russia's intelligence service. It brings a new understanding to the fact that President Putin was the first foreign President to call President Bush on 9/11. One may conjecture that he knew in advance what was to happen.

Muslim Name and Communist Heart

Tartars have always been patriotic to Russia. Their independent kingdom was conquered by Russia in the 16th century, but their gentry were allowed to join the Russian upper class and enjoy all its privileges. Even today, many Russian families of noble origin have Tartar origins. Russia has a half-millennium of experience in turning conquered Muslim nations into obedient citizens by bribing their elite.

There are many Soviet Muslims, therefore, who seem to face no conflict of spirit. One can be a Muslim in name only, whose heart belongs to Communism. There have been a lot of such people among Russian Muslims, especially among the Tartars. The Soviet Union has typically preferred to appoint them as ambassadors to Muslim countries. Their Muslim names give them a pass to the local society, but their Communist hearts order them to serve world Communism and not the world of Islam.

In the Soviet period, the highest leadership of the Muslim republics like Uzbekistan were unofficially allowed to practice Islam under the guise of folk rites, even though their Russian colleagues were severely reprimanded for participating in such Christian "rites" as Christmas or Easter. Unlike today, Soviet cartoonists were able to mock Islam as they mocked all other religions and it didn't bring any special reaction.

Muslims of the Uzbek and other Central Asian republics' elite joined the KGB intelligence in order to spy on fellow Muslim countries. In the KGB, I have met a lot of such quasi-Muslim officers.

Russia Grows Muslim

Putin continues the traditional Russian policy of giving privileges to the Muslim elite. Today's Russian Minister of Healthcare, Mikhail Zurabov, is a Chechen. His political agenda includes the total destruction of the Russian healthcare system, looking like revenge for the war in Chechnya. Putin shows no concern over that.

Strategically Russia is surrendering to the Muslim world. The Russian population is declining rapidly, being undermined by 70 years of Communist experiment and the cold indifference of post-communist rulers. Annually, Russia is losing 900 thousand people who are being replaced by Muslims from the Caucasus and Central Asia. Islam is now the second-largest religion in Russia, where it may total up to 28 million adherents. Because of this, Russia was able to join the Organization of the Islamic Conference in 2003.

Russia's great qualitative population change represents both a departure from the past and a strengthening link with it. The synergies between the history of Russia's national policies of terrorism and the radical Islamic terrorism that it is spreading around the world are natural partners that may severely impact on America's own future.

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Konstantin Preobrazhensky, a former Lt. Colonel in the KGB who defected to the United States in 1993, is an intelligence expert and specialist on Japan, about which he has written six books. His newest book Russian-American, A New KGB Asset will be published in late 2007. This article was first published by Gerard Group International, Intel Analyses, 31 August 2007.

http://cicentre.com/Documents/russia_islam_not_separate.html

20 posted on 05/08/2010 5:24:05 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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