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UPDATE: SWAT raid prompts Columbia police review of policies
columbiamissourian.com ^ | 05/06/2010 | columbiamissourian.com

Posted on 05/06/2010 9:01:22 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour

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1 posted on 05/06/2010 9:01:22 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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This crack tema of idiots slaughtered a pit bull WHO WAS IN A CAGE and a Corgi...

Its just more proof that the police in this country are absolutely terrified to do their job a job they all volunteered for I might add...

So they respond by going into every single situation guns blazing, recklessly endangering far more lives than the criminals they claim to protect us from.

All int he name of rescuing a bag of dope!


2 posted on 05/06/2010 9:03:35 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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We’ve had years where we’ve done over 100 (raids) a year, and the vast vast bulk of them are without incident, with no violence,

Kicking someone's door in and pointing a machine gun in their face isn't violent? I suppose, then, that the way "violent crimes" are reported, there must be some errors.

3 posted on 05/06/2010 9:05:32 PM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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It is likely that these guys may train only once a year. They are not professional SWAT, only part timers. They should not be doing warrants; only emergency reaction and VIP protection.


4 posted on 05/06/2010 9:06:24 PM PDT by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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It is likely that these guys may train only once a year. They are not professional SWAT, only part timers. They should not be doing warrants; only emergency reaction and VIP protection.

If these clowns only train once a year then they do not need to be on a SWAT Team. Come to think of it if the team only trains once a year, you do not need a SWAT Team period!

5 posted on 05/06/2010 9:08:33 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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6 posted on 05/06/2010 9:14:12 PM PDT by kanawa
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But he said the SWAT team had no policy on how to deal with dogs.

As for the department's policy on handling dogs, he said. "If they're aggressive and violent towards our officers, we'll shoot 'em," though he said it was "rare."

Oops...chief's gonna regret those statements. A thousand sources, people, policies and data, to prove him wrong...lying...or just incompetent, IMHO

7 posted on 05/06/2010 9:14:56 PM PDT by dasboot (Down: up. Up: down.)
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http://www.columbiamissourian.com/stories/2010/05/06/update-swat-raid-prompts-police-review-policies/


8 posted on 05/06/2010 9:15:31 PM PDT by maine-iac7
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Oops...chief's gonna regret those statements.

Yep! Some litigator is chomping at the bit to get his or her teeth into this case!

9 posted on 05/06/2010 9:17:41 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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It would seem that our police are no longer police, but have evolved into legally armed militia.


10 posted on 05/06/2010 9:25:24 PM PDT by doc1019 (Rush, Beck and others are giving us the dots; it is up to us to connect them.)
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but have evolved into legally armed militia.

Legally armed militia?

Naaah... try a state controlled Stasi.

11 posted on 05/06/2010 9:29:53 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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Well, it’s not so much the case, itself [I do find it strange that this is a NIGHT TIME raid.....unlawful in my state without exegent circumstances..and authorized by a magistrate or judge....and usually ‘no-knock’];

but, rather, the fact that dogs are a prominent subject in all SWAT training, and that any dog loose in the domicile usually ‘gets it’...as a matter of policy: that is, that any loose dog, that is a threat, is, reasonably, a ‘go’ target, for safety reasons. And virtually all dogs, in that situation, are.

I personally don’t know of any SWAT raid in which a loose dog was not whacked. And it was usually the team leader who was first-in, and did the deed. I know my department’s team leader very well. He is a great, compassionate, reasonable war-hero of a guy. It was and remains a long-running inside joke.....’needles’ directed at the team: “Get the dog?” Haha. Routine thing. And often necessary for officer survival.

But the chief just bollixed things up for himself and his team leader, I think. Just tell the trufe, chief!!


12 posted on 05/06/2010 9:32:51 PM PDT by dasboot (Down: up. Up: down.)
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13 posted on 05/06/2010 9:33:55 PM PDT by dragnet2
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btw...most of the dogs were pits, dobies, and rotties....specifically in the places to alert on and harry cops during a feared raid. Time buying apparatus....and just a hoot, if one can get a bite on a copper.


14 posted on 05/06/2010 9:36:57 PM PDT by dasboot (Down: up. Up: down.)
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You sure about the cage?


15 posted on 05/06/2010 9:48:31 PM PDT by dragnet2
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The family is claiming the dog was in a cage and the cage has bullet holes in it.
16 posted on 05/06/2010 9:53:16 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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“Oops...chief’s gonna regret those statements.

Yep! Some litigator is chomping at the bit to get his or her teeth into this case!”

I think we really need some court decisions here that put the people who live in cities with (butt) crack teams like this into indebted servitude to the victors in a lawsuit for years. Hitting people in the wallet is brutal, but sometimes it’s the only (legal) way to get a point across.


17 posted on 05/06/2010 9:59:13 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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Oh yeah, I don't think much, if any of the blame for the delay, and poor information upon which the warrant was based, is redounding to the SWAT team's ‘bad’: it was a drug raid. Vice, likely, developed the info and informant; and a review of the perp’s record by their CO was an indicator of SWAT’s prudent involvement. Dynamic raids protect cops and 7-year-olds in a potential line-of-fire, if one should erupt. Hammer down; freeze everybody and everything; overwhelming force. It's a good, safe idea.

As a uniform guy, I'd often be used by my vice unit to knock at the door; it wasn't a raid if a guy in uniform was knocking! :^) The BG’s opened the door, and all hell would pour into the place. Arf. Good, safe, advantage-buying tactic.

I also used to photograph, document, and collect evidence at SWAT and vice raids. And I spent many years answering calls to service. I never shot a dog...but came close several times, but I had an option that SWAT, and others serving warrants, didn't have: I could reasonably retreat...and threaten to shoot the owner. [kidding]. Scare the shiite outta ya. I hate collies. Some dogs that my colleagues whacked were legend. A collective cheer would go up in the station when the news of demise came. If these canine thugs weren't trying to get a piece of a cop today, they'd be tearing the face off the 3-year-old kid of the human alpha male in the house tomorrow. Dogs are dangerous, unpredictable weapons. I claim no foul for the SWAT guys in the vid.

18 posted on 05/06/2010 9:59:36 PM PDT by dasboot (Down: up. Up: down.)
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“The family is claiming the dog was in a cage and the cage has bullet holes in it.”

The officer may not have descried a thinly wired cage in poor light.

The officer may have been looking through the cage at the threat: revert to training...I’m sure cages were not discussed. threat-nutralization is the thing.

No guarantee the cage was locked.

I give a preliminary pass.


19 posted on 05/06/2010 10:04:20 PM PDT by dasboot (Down: up. Up: down.)
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If a (I assume) body-armored SWAT team member is fearful of a Corgi, may I suggest that he is in the wrong line of work; clearly, there is something wrong with the vetting process.

Police are given a great deal of power; but with that power comes responsibility, and I am not seeing any consequence of abusing that power and shirking that responsibility. This needs to be corrected, and this is what the courts and punishing, crippling lawsuits are supposed to be for.


20 posted on 05/06/2010 10:14:07 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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