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To: dasboot
Oops...chief's gonna regret those statements.

Yep! Some litigator is chomping at the bit to get his or her teeth into this case!

9 posted on 05/06/2010 9:17:41 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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Well, it’s not so much the case, itself [I do find it strange that this is a NIGHT TIME raid.....unlawful in my state without exegent circumstances..and authorized by a magistrate or judge....and usually ‘no-knock’];

but, rather, the fact that dogs are a prominent subject in all SWAT training, and that any dog loose in the domicile usually ‘gets it’...as a matter of policy: that is, that any loose dog, that is a threat, is, reasonably, a ‘go’ target, for safety reasons. And virtually all dogs, in that situation, are.

I personally don’t know of any SWAT raid in which a loose dog was not whacked. And it was usually the team leader who was first-in, and did the deed. I know my department’s team leader very well. He is a great, compassionate, reasonable war-hero of a guy. It was and remains a long-running inside joke.....’needles’ directed at the team: “Get the dog?” Haha. Routine thing. And often necessary for officer survival.

But the chief just bollixed things up for himself and his team leader, I think. Just tell the trufe, chief!!


12 posted on 05/06/2010 9:32:51 PM PDT by dasboot (Down: up. Up: down.)
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btw...most of the dogs were pits, dobies, and rotties....specifically in the places to alert on and harry cops during a feared raid. Time buying apparatus....and just a hoot, if one can get a bite on a copper.


14 posted on 05/06/2010 9:36:57 PM PDT by dasboot (Down: up. Up: down.)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

“Oops...chief’s gonna regret those statements.

Yep! Some litigator is chomping at the bit to get his or her teeth into this case!”

I think we really need some court decisions here that put the people who live in cities with (butt) crack teams like this into indebted servitude to the victors in a lawsuit for years. Hitting people in the wallet is brutal, but sometimes it’s the only (legal) way to get a point across.


17 posted on 05/06/2010 9:59:13 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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Oh yeah, I don't think much, if any of the blame for the delay, and poor information upon which the warrant was based, is redounding to the SWAT team's ‘bad’: it was a drug raid. Vice, likely, developed the info and informant; and a review of the perp’s record by their CO was an indicator of SWAT’s prudent involvement. Dynamic raids protect cops and 7-year-olds in a potential line-of-fire, if one should erupt. Hammer down; freeze everybody and everything; overwhelming force. It's a good, safe idea.

As a uniform guy, I'd often be used by my vice unit to knock at the door; it wasn't a raid if a guy in uniform was knocking! :^) The BG’s opened the door, and all hell would pour into the place. Arf. Good, safe, advantage-buying tactic.

I also used to photograph, document, and collect evidence at SWAT and vice raids. And I spent many years answering calls to service. I never shot a dog...but came close several times, but I had an option that SWAT, and others serving warrants, didn't have: I could reasonably retreat...and threaten to shoot the owner. [kidding]. Scare the shiite outta ya. I hate collies. Some dogs that my colleagues whacked were legend. A collective cheer would go up in the station when the news of demise came. If these canine thugs weren't trying to get a piece of a cop today, they'd be tearing the face off the 3-year-old kid of the human alpha male in the house tomorrow. Dogs are dangerous, unpredictable weapons. I claim no foul for the SWAT guys in the vid.

18 posted on 05/06/2010 9:59:36 PM PDT by dasboot (Down: up. Up: down.)
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