Posted on 05/06/2010 5:01:27 PM PDT by mlizzy
The pill is an abortifacient.
Use that line during your particular judgment and see what it gets you.
Plenty more reading for you.
Just my humble opinion. Writings of this nature would be more persuasive if they did not imply that the one and only reason anyone ever took contraception was ‘free love.’ My grandmother had 11 children back to back...the last two were stillborn. This was actually considered a small family prior to condoms and the pill. I recall reading a letter of author Jane Austen (circa 1800) where she received news of a peer who was yet again pregnant hard on the heels of yet another pregnancy. Jane remarked on the woman’s exhaustion from continuous pregnancies with sympathy. I think some people wondered if 12 children were about as many children as they had the ability to provide for. Especially as childborth has come along way medically - it used to be more dangerous. I am not saying that other comments posted here are entirely groundless but that the paint brush used to paint anyone/everyone who ever wanted to try or tried contraception as those who wanted unrestrained fornication etc. Balance...perhaps those worried about increasingly difficult pregnancies were told that they would not conceive if they took the pill - shall they too be counted with the free love, no responsibility fornication ‘addicts?’
17. Responsible men can become more deeply convinced of the truth of the doctrine laid down by the Church on this issue if they reflect on the consequences of methods and plans for artificial birth control. Let them first consider how easily this course of action could open wide the way for marital infidelity and a general lowering of moral standards. Not much experience is needed to be fully aware of human weakness and to understand that human beingsand especially the young, who are so exposed to temptationneed incentives to keep the moral law, and it is an evil thing to make it easy for them to break that law. Another effect that gives cause for alarm is that a man who grows accustomed to the use of contraceptive methods may forget the reverence due to a woman, and, disregarding her physical and emotional equilibrium, reduce her to being a mere instrument for the satisfaction of his own desires, no longer considering her as his partner whom he should surround with care and affection. --Humanae Vitae
It can do that because of the way it interrupts the leutinizing hormone cycle, which results in the endometrium ‘remaining’ heavy with mucosa. The primary way the contraceptive pill works is to prevent maturation of ova for release. The poster stated that that method was not what ‘the pill’ does. It is incorrect to state flatly that the pill does not prevent conception. In some rare cases an ova is released and even more rarely conception occurs, based upon timing of dosing and the hormonal flux of the female body.
You obviously don’t understand that there is more than one type of pill.
For Socialism to work you have to kill the Church and kill the family. They have come near killing the family.
LOL ... I just posted a post which makes the point that the poster was perhaps confusing two different ‘pills’. I was a Searle rep for years. I absolutely understand this issue, exquisitely.
For what it’s worth: I lost a good job at SZearle because I refused to sell interuterine devices named the ‘CU 7’ and ‘Tatum T’. I did sell Demulen and Ovulen, until I realize by talking with an in house scientist that these too can cause abortion.
2399 The regulation of births represents one of the aspects of responsible fatherhood and motherhood. Legitimate intentions on the part of the spouses do not justify recourse to morally unacceptable means (for example, direct sterilization or contraception). |
2370 Periodic continence, that is, the methods of birth regulation based on self-observation and the use of infertile periods, is in conformity with the objective criteria of morality. These methods respect the bodies of the spouses, encourage tenderness between them, and favor the education of an authentic freedom. In contrast, "every action which, whether in anticipation of the conjugal act, or in its accomplishment, or in the development of its natural consequences, proposes, whether as an end or as a means, to render procreation impossible" is intrinsically evil:
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intrauterine, not interuterine ... sheesh, tired old head.
Back to Sanger — her main interest was NOT the emancipation of women — it was eugenics, pure and simple. More from the “fit” and less from the “unfit.” She was a big hit with the Klan, as can be seen here (scroll down for famous picture): http://bigjournalism.com/sswift/2010/01/22/thirty-seven-years-after-roe-v-wade-a-disenfranchised-silent-generation/
I am no Sanger fan. I was just commenting that, if this or posts like it are meant to persuade, they may be more effective if they acknowledge that not all impulses toward the pill were eugenics or licentiousness. As I read repeated references to craven individuals refusing to accept responsibility etc, I imagined the faces of some of those women who actually had 15 plus children and wondered how to care for the next one. Or those women who suffered complications with growing frequency until childbirth became a routine fight for life. I am not suggesting that posts should support these women should they use contraceptives, just found myself thinking that they should not be lumped in with tireless fornicators, adulterers etc.
Traditionally, when new electronic military technologies became available, there was always a pervasive rumor that “they would make you sterile.” This caused great fear and trepidation among soldiers.
So here is an idea that maybe its time has come. Not as a real thing, but as a cautionary warning to those who seek to “play God” with reproduction.
Pretend that some unnamed company has invented a single pill, that if one is given to a man, woman, or child, it will permanently and irreversibly sterilize them. And that millions or even billions of these pills had been made, warehoused, and that vast numbers were stolen and are missing.
Purely as a thought problem this is a horrifying possibility, and would probably make a terrifying horror movie. (Though some in the “scientific” community would applaud the concept as a great idea.)
Suddenly, tyranny and genocide become *easy*. If a tyrant has a hated and despised minority, he can give each and every one of them a single pill, perhaps in their food, and they will eventually be entirely gone.
Likewise, with an enemy nation, even if it guarded its food and water, if somehow, anyhow, such a pill could be administered, the hated enemy or religion would be gone forever.
And hatred could turn into terror. One political party sterilizes the members of a competing party. All criminals are sterilized.
Eventually the pill becomes more feared than nuclear weapons. If anyone is adjudged as sterile, which is not naturally uncommon, by the way, they would be assumed to be a victim of the pill, and demand retaliation.
Men could slip women a pill for the guarantee that there would be sex, but no pregnancy. And women could do the same to their husband, if they didn’t want him impregnating any other woman.
In short, the world turns into a race to preserve your own fertility and sterilize everyone else. Every person turned against every other person.
It would make one hell of a movie. It would make Hell on Earth.
But more than anything else, it would be a profound allegory to what the birth control pill represents, just taken to an extreme. And to show how those that hate life now, if empowered, would likely be more than willing to exterminate most, or in some cases, all, of mankind.
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Natural and Unnatural (father of 5 shocks mother of 1)
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