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To: Mase
I spent a lot of years working through the bureaucratic jungle that is the FDA so I have a good handle on the good and bad they offer.

If that's so, then it would be of greater benefit to everyone reading here if you simply pointed out the facts as you know them, and make some attempt to set the record straight, instead of insisting that you're right, and I'm wrong.

It's pretty apparent that you want to tangle with me for the sport of it. You're belittling every well-reasoned statement I've made, and now you're belittling me. That's alright, except I'm not in the mood to dance just for the hell of it.

I put up this post as a public service. If someone (like you) looks at it, and thinks that it contains some misinformation, I suggest they methodically, and intelligently debunk what they consider to be false data.

Attacking the messenger won't win you any points or convince anyone that you've got a superior take on the subject.

104 posted on 05/04/2010 9:11:20 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
You think food safety was better back in the days when there were no established guidelines or inspections? Do you think we were healthier and safer when companies didn't have to prove what they put in a bottle or pill was safe and efficacious? Life was better when we had no protocol for recalling adulterated foods and drugs that had been distributed nationwide? Good grief, are you serious? No wonder you believe the crap in the article you posted.

You posted an article filled with fear and hyperbole and then made a broad statement that wasn't true. I merely pointed that out. Your statements are anything but well reasoned. The fact that you continue to have to qualify them is proof enough. I'm not belittling you. Calling you ignorant of this bill and its implications is self evident. There's no need to be so defensive.

This article is not a public service; it's just the opposite. No well reasoned person believes the fedgov is going to deny them the ability to buy vitamins at the local Kroger or will make using Ginko Biloba a felony. No rational human thinks that the fedgov is going to place all food production under the control of the UN who will then outlaw personal gardens, local farms and organic producers. No clear thinking person argues that this bill will make it illegal to pick apples from a tree on your property and take them to grandma's to make pie on Thanksgiving. Who really believes you'll be arrested if you grow strawberries and make your own jam? That's crazy talk. But here it is on FR and you're defending it.

This is from your article:

Seems pretty harmless and necessary to me. Yet, this is getting you all fired up. Why? Less than 3% of the food imported into this country is inspected today. With so much product coming from China and Mexico these days, don't you think there needs to be better systems put in place? There was no procedure in place to recall ephedra when it became known that it was making people sick. Because of that, many more people became sick and some died. This bill addresses that problem.

A rational person would look at this and come to a different conclusion than you and many others have. Again, I'm just pointing that out. Consider it a public service. That's just the kind of guy I am.

105 posted on 05/05/2010 6:51:08 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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