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Was the Gulf Oil Rig Explosion a Deliberate Attack on America?‎
Dakota Voice ^ | May 1, 2010 | Gina Miller

Posted on 05/01/2010 10:33:38 PM PDT by granite

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21 posted on 05/01/2010 11:15:30 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: granite

The approval of the drilling was given by the US Dept of the Interior and Agriculture in March of 2009, and is still under the concerns of the Dept. of the Interior, Sec. Menendez.

Another post recounts flickering lights, a massive thud, then the explosion. Too many questions, too few answers, if any, to surface in time. Security of oil rigs is now an issue, and much more expensive and time consuming than placing Air Marshalls on airplanes.


22 posted on 05/01/2010 11:15:38 PM PDT by givemELL (Does Taiwan eet the Criteria to Qualify as an "Overseas Territory of the United States"? by Richar)
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To: granite

A Russian website (which got info from a neo-Nazi site) and Rush Limbaugh and Michael Savage as sources? This is silly conspiracy mongering.


23 posted on 05/01/2010 11:21:25 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed MLK Jr.)
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To: granite; All

I’ve had this confirmed by two sources:

The rig was built by a So Korean group - and it is being said that a group of No Korean mini-subs with suicide teams were supposedly headed for another destination but veered off from that destination and then released the mini-subs about 100 miles off the rig site.

Supposedly, the No Korean subs launched a torpedo and took out the rig and then they later placed their sub over the submerged rig and blew up the sub - opening up the oil spill. On Thursday, the SWAT teams were sent out to check the other rigs and to protect them from possible attack. This was also the reason that these other rigs were shut down in the Gulf.

Evidently, this is connected with the So Korean ship which was also torpedoed recently and the rig which was built by the So Koreans.

Obama put out a media blackout on the information - but overseas groups from Russia and the UK have been reporting on it.


24 posted on 05/01/2010 11:29:14 PM PDT by CyberAnt
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To: CyberAnt

The greater conspiracy here is going to be how the North Koreans obtained the open hole logs of the well from BP, got on depth, and perforated the oil producing zones on the well. The well already had casing and was cemented 20 hrs prior to the blowout. I encourage you to gain knowledge on how wells are drilled and completed before floating conspiracy theories on a reputable site such as FR.


25 posted on 05/01/2010 11:53:55 PM PDT by rwh (What great fortune it is for those in power that the people do not think!)
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To: granite

This will be Obanga’s Katrina, he sure took his sweet time responding to this mess & now the entire coastline is in danger as this slick continues to grow, plus they say they have no idea how deep underwater, this slick is!


26 posted on 05/01/2010 11:57:16 PM PDT by blondee123 (Illinois ELECT Adam Kinzinger - http://www.electadam.com/ rid US of communism!)
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To: granite

Just saying, or thinking out loud.

Why are they drilling almost a mile down, which, when something like this happens, is a lot harder to fix?

Answer: Because environmentalists have made it impossible to drill inshore, on the continental shelf, where it is easier and safer.

Will this disaster destroy the environment long term?

Answer: The German U-boats at the beginning of WWII, Operation Drumbeat, sank tanker after tanker off of the coast of Florida, the UK. etc. The Ocean has a way of cleaning this up chemically. It does take time, but Florida, et. all, was not destroyed.

There are other countries, Cuba among them + China who will take over and drill in these areas if the USA does not. The drilling will not stop. The only question is the price of gasoline.

Environmentalists who protest this should: first be required to practice what they preach
1) They did not drive to a rally while living in an urban area with mass transit. (In distinction from Montana etc.)
2) They have a means to prevent any drilling by anybody in the Gulf, not just the USA, such as other nations.
3) They have no plastic which comes from oil in their house, office, car, kitchen or school for their children. They actually heat their home without the use of any fossil fuel, including natural gas, coal, oil etc.
4) They wear no clothes or posses other items from an oil distillate, nor any medication derived from it, including a computer or most modern prescriptions.

If they fail this test, then they are phony, whether personally, in the news, etc. and should be branded as such, preferably with a melted plastic spoon from their own kitchen.


27 posted on 05/01/2010 11:57:46 PM PDT by verklaring (4))
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To: granite
Terra-ists.

28 posted on 05/01/2010 11:58:37 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: rwh
The greater conspiracy here is going to be how the North Koreans obtained the open hole logs of the well from BP

Being a former cased hole tech, I never did trust that open hole bunch..... :-)

29 posted on 05/01/2010 11:59:41 PM PDT by The Cajun (Mind numbed robot , ditto-head, Hannitized, Levinite)
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To: The Cajun

Heck yeah cased hole or no hole!


30 posted on 05/02/2010 12:12:01 AM PDT by rwh (What great fortune it is for those in power that the people do not think!)
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To: rwh

You don’t send SWAT if there’s an accident.

And .. all the other rigs in the Gulf were shut down the same day - there was no other event or even weather to demand such a thing.

Those two events alone should tell you I’m not floating a conspiracy.

You can believe whatever you want.


31 posted on 05/02/2010 12:13:52 AM PDT by CyberAnt
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To: Safrguns

There . are . no . coincidences .


32 posted on 05/02/2010 12:19:29 AM PDT by zeebee (Ask a teenager now, while they still know everything.)
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To: CyberAnt

No I wouldn’t send SWAT and you wouldn’t send SWAT if there is an accident. Obama, well he does whatever he pleases.

As one knowledgeable with the industry all I ask is that you do a little research into how wells are drilled and completed and see what stage this well was at in the completion process and you will see how far fetched these conspiracy theories are. On a well without casing damage it would take more than a bomb on surface to cause what happened to this well.


33 posted on 05/02/2010 12:24:39 AM PDT by rwh (What great fortune it is for those in power that the people do not think!)
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To: Safrguns
"A caller into Mark Levin’s show who was on the rig when it exploded said that terrorism had nothing to do with it.

"It was a freak act of nature which forced tons of invisible gas onto the platform."

These rigs have lots of built in safeguards to prevent the forces of nature from causing such a disaster. Why didn't the most sophisticated engineering in the world stop invisible gas from gushing out onto the platform? Were those safeguards rendered useless by someone who turned a valve or flipped a switch, making that platform a ticking time bomb?

34 posted on 05/02/2010 12:31:25 AM PDT by jonrick46 (We're being water boarded with the sewage of Fabian Socialism.)
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To: CyberAnt
...then they later placed their sub over the submerged rig and blew up the sub - opening up the oil spill.

Since the rig ended up quite a ways from the well head and the BOP on the well head is perfectly intact that's quite a theory. LOL

35 posted on 05/02/2010 12:31:38 AM PDT by TigersEye (0basma's father was a British subject. He can't be a "natural-born" citizen.)
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To: rwh
Thankfully a FReeper already did a lot of research on this.

Background and Technical Info on the Gulf Drilling Rig Incident incl BOP and ROV Site Info

36 posted on 05/02/2010 12:33:45 AM PDT by TigersEye (0basma's father was a British subject. He can't be a "natural-born" citizen.)
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To: dila813
I haven't spent any time on this, but read somewhere (either FR or drive by media) that the rig had not yet been fitted with an updated blow out device, and they were planning to go down (I think it's a mile or so down) with some huge well capping device.

I can't imagine how heavy a mile of pipe would be, and to even be able to engineer something like that is a testament to American "Can Do Itness".

Refinery accidents, where everything is at ground level, are not uncommon. I live less than 20 miles from the Anacortes fire, and my neighbor, who works next door at Chevron lost a friend there.

There's also over a hundred workers who got off that rig safely. If they thought they were attacked by a sub or sabotuer, we probably would - or soon will - hear from the workers.

37 posted on 05/02/2010 1:08:52 AM PDT by 4woodenboats (Defend America peacefully, vigorously, and swiftly against all enemies before she becomes a memory)
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To: granite
Well control problems are not uncommon. This one IS only in its magnitude and it is newsworthy because of its location and the loss of both lives and a mammoth hunk of technological iron.

In actuality, well control is a fundamental of drilling. If well control fundamentals, procedures or equipment fail at the precise moment that are needed, bad things happen — not too unlike vehicle brakes failing right when needed or when the driver doesn’t apply them. Drilling without sound well control procedures is like skydiving without a parachute.

Whether this turns out to be “operator” error, equipment failure, or a combination of both, the end result is predictable. The magnitude in this instance is not.

After being in the oil exploration business for 35 years, I know that BP, Transocean, Halliburton, and all the other 100 or more contractors that were involved in the drilling of this well have all worked hard to have a successful outcome — their livelihood depends on it.

Is it possible that negligence created this situation? Yes, it is -- but it can't be assumed. When drilling in a challenging environment like this, in water depths of 5000’ and well depths 4 times that, small problems can get real big, real fast - obviously. It is actually amazing that problems like this don’t occur more often, and it is also commendable to the operator that over 100 people escaped alive — and an indication of the procedures that were in place. 100 people dont evacuate in short order without a good procedure to do so or training to make it work. My guess is that prevention, procedures for well control and training were not the problem. The sequence of events likely was. Time will tell.

Casual readers cannot comprehend the effort, knowledge and skill required to undertake a drilling operation in deepwater (or anywhere for that matter).

Now that the situation is what it is, the question is what to do about it. It would be my guess that anyone who can contribute to the solution has already been engaged by BP, and they are working nonstop to provide answers — although the first obstacle is “answers to what”? What exactly is the situation on the sea floor? Finding that answer, developing a solution and affecting that solution will take months. In the meantime, we can only hope that some follow on event takes place that causes the flow to cease, such as a casing collapse or natural bridging in the well (not a high probability) or that the reservoir depletes and quits flowing (also not likely). Otherwise, its gonna be a long summer at BP HQ.

Suffice it to say, Obama is not going to fly there, and read a recipe from the teleprompter on how to cure this problem. Even throwing money at it won’t fix it. Only time will. I’m just glad it’s not my well.

And at the end of the day, loss of life aside, this “catastrophe” will be ephemeral.

North Korean suicide mini-subs? I think not.

38 posted on 05/02/2010 1:28:25 AM PDT by rat_chad
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To: Safrguns

“A caller into Mark Levin’s show who was on the rig”

Glad you got a positive ID....


39 posted on 05/02/2010 4:03:20 AM PDT by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: verklaring

A tanker is an atom on a molecule in a drop in a bucket compared to this.


40 posted on 05/02/2010 4:33:49 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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