1 posted on
04/29/2010 10:44:57 AM PDT by
Red Steel
To: Red Steel
Rush just said they are voting on this now.
2 posted on
04/29/2010 10:45:24 AM PDT by
Red Steel
To: Red Steel
I lived in Puerto Rico for a time. Please Lord, do NOT let them become a State!
To: Red Steel
I say give ‘em back to Spain.....
To: Red Steel
It’s racist to deny Democrats 2 more Senate seats. :)
7 posted on
04/29/2010 10:51:20 AM PDT by
Tzimisce
(No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
To: Red Steel; Stillwaters
Keeping an eye on this thread for updates on the vote, which is apparently taking place now.
10 posted on
04/29/2010 10:55:35 AM PDT by
lonevoice
(If Fox News is the only outlet reporting it, did it really happen?)
To: Red Steel
You watch! After Puerto Rico comes KENYA!
To: Red Steel; PJ-Comix
More:
Is Puerto Rico about to become the 51st state?
Although it has not received much play in the mainstream media, the U.S. House is voting today on a bill that could ultimately result in Puerto Rico becoming the fifty-first state. The notion of Puerto Rican statehood is nothing new. Residents of the commonwealth have voted three times on the question of whether Puerto Rico should become a state, most recently in 1996. Each time, residents voted to retain the island's extant status.
This time could be the "charm" for Democrats in Congress, who see a golden opportunity in winning Puerto Rican over as a state. Seating two more senators and as many as six Congressmen likely to align themselves with the Democrats would give the party in power even more control going forward.
By P.J. Gladnick
Shhh!
Don't tell anybody but Congress is scheduled to vote today on H.R. 2499, a bill that could end up paving the way to Puerto Rican statehood, that is being presented with such incredible stealth that it has been given almost no coverage in the mainstream media. In fact, about the only person in the media shining a light on this bill until recently has been Glenn Beck. Liberals can be expected to write off Beck's criticisms of H.R. 2499 as just another example of "right-wing kookery." Frances Martel of Mediaite has already mocked Beck for his opposition to this bill.
However, liberals will have a hard time writing off similar criticisms of the stealth Puerto Rico status bill being made by liberal Democrat Luis Gutierrez of Illinois who is of Puerto Rican descent. While reading Guiterrez slamming H.R. 249 in his Huffington Post blog, you sometimes have to slap yourself as a reminder that these criticisms are not coming from a conservative Republican...or Glenn Beck:
H.R. 2499, the Puerto Rico statehood bill was brought to the House this week after a surprise announcement last Thursday. Debate on this bill has been severely limited by the way Democratic Leaders are managing the process. Democratic Puerto Rican Members of Congress are being shut out of the process and will be severely limited in their ability to debate the bill and offer amendments. Under the current Democratic Leadership, there will be less opportunity for Members and for the people of Puerto Rico to gain a better understanding of the bill.
With oil spilling into the Gulf of Mexico, the debate over financial reform heating up and Congress castigating Goldman Sachs, news that a proposed House bill will give Puerto Ricans a chance to vote for statehood has been largely overlooked by the media. The exception is a small but vehement group of conservative pundits, who over the past week have repeatedly sounded the alarm on the familiar right-wing obsession.
- Answers Before Adding a State Doc Hastings, a House Republican for West Virginia, makes the case against the bill in a guest column for RedState. "If a Congressionally-sanctioned vote is going to be held, it must come with an open, thorough understanding of what independence or statehood would mean to Puerto Rico and the existing 50 states," he argues, citing a need for a full debate on the issue that addresses the effect Puerto Rican statehood would have on the rest of America. "The bottom line is that there are many questions that have not been answered, and there are a great many implications that arent being considered or even discussed."
- The Latest Progressive Conspiracy Never one to back away from a conspiracy theory, Glenn Beck labels the bill a progressive plot to use a 19th-century plan for statehood in Tennessee to make Puerto Rico a state and further "transform America." Beck details precisely how progressives will carry out their scheme:
Congressmen voting for HR 2499 are like sheep being led to slaughter. They'll say the people of Puerto Rico have a right to vote for themselves. They'll vote yes. The progressives will then present a false choice to the people. Instead of saying "do you want to be a state?"it's "Do you want the status quo?" If voters vote no, the next vote removes the status quo from the ballot, leaving statehood against two far less popular options. They'll vote yes for statehood. Then they'll elect their congressman and senators, they'll demand to be seated and a 51st star will be attached to the flag.
More at each of the links
15 posted on
04/29/2010 11:01:03 AM PDT by
Syncro
(TPX IV Coming soon!)
To: Red Steel
In the last referendum It's happened before. It's news but it isn't.
17 posted on
04/29/2010 11:04:05 AM PDT by
a fool in paradise
(The hysteria of Matthewsism and Andersonism has led to a Tea Party Scare that is unAmerican.)
To: Red Steel; xzins; blue-duncan
Today, Puerto Ricans serve in the military but can't vote in presidential elections. They do not pay income tax on income earned on the island.You think they'll give up a free ride on income tax in exchange for a right to vote for president? I suppose if the majority of Puerto Ricans are not earning enough to pay income tax, then maybe.
I'm thinking maybe we can get California to revert back to Territorial Status. My vote in presidential elections doesn't count for much these days, but my income taxes are pretty substantial.
Let's start a movement.
21 posted on
04/29/2010 11:11:52 AM PDT by
P-Marlowe
(LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
To: Red Steel
I am very concerned as my conservative seems to be wanting to vote yes, Ginny Brown-Waite, FL
To: Red Steel
“Initially, eligible voters, including those born in Puerto Rico but residing in the United States”
Hey! Can I still vote in the state I was born in? Or am I limited to voting in the state that I legally reside in?
I read somewhere that there are more Puerto Ricans living off the island than on, so this is going to greatly skew the results.
42 posted on
04/29/2010 12:09:11 PM PDT by
DBrow
To: Red Steel
Doesn’t this look a little like Card Check?
48 posted on
04/29/2010 12:17:33 PM PDT by
DBrow
To: Red Steel
It's all about SOCIAL JUSTICE
51 posted on
04/29/2010 12:33:35 PM PDT by
mentor2k
To: Red Steel
“Leftist power forever!” is what this is really all about.
58 posted on
04/29/2010 2:35:20 PM PDT by
johnthebaptistmoore
(If leftist legislation that's already in place really can't be ended by non-leftists, then what?)
To: Red Steel

they will have to start paying INCOME TAXES if they do... i don't think they want to drop that free ride welfare ticket yet
60 posted on
04/29/2010 4:01:23 PM PDT by
Chode
(American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
63 posted on
04/29/2010 4:21:01 PM PDT by
SunkenCiv
("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
To: Red Steel
VOTES Is all this administration wants, they could care less for anything else or the people, just the votes of four million for 2012 that zero desperately needs for another term.
67 posted on
04/29/2010 6:57:00 PM PDT by
Macgedos
To: Red Steel
Rigging the voting process?
The commonwealth status allows the 4 million mostly Spanish-speaking Puerto Ricans to benefit from the protection of the U.S., but they are not required to pay federal income taxes on income they earn from island sources. However, they do pay federal payroll taxes for Social Security and Medicare. They currently do not vote in presidential elections and have non-voting representation in Congress.
However, some say statehood advocates are rigging the voting process to ensure Puerto Rico becomes a state.
In September, the New York Post reported Sen. Jose Hernandez-Mayoral of the islands minority Popular Democratic Party declared, Behind this innocuous bill lies a fully thought out assault on Congress to designate the island the 51st state.
With the commonwealth option out of the ballot, statehood is finally, albeit crookedly, assured a victory. more...
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=146949
68 posted on
04/29/2010 7:33:45 PM PDT by
TribalPrincess2U
(demonicRATS... taxes, pain and slow death. Is this what you want?)
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