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The sliminess of the pro illegal types defies no bounds!

These guys cant do anything to stop the law. Let all good Arizonans get behind this law, and make sure that it is passed at the ballot box, keeping it safe from repeal by cowardly dems. Also, lets make sure that if and when the referendum happens, all polling booths are fully guarded against attacks by Mexican thugs.

1 posted on 04/29/2010 2:59:50 AM PDT by ketelone
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“Opponents of the law have until late July or early August to file the more than 76,000 signatures _ the same time the law is set to go into effect. If they get enough signatures, the law would be delayed until a vote.”

Mostly signatures from illegals no doubt.

All it takes is one judge, to override the law. The dems have plenty of them in the palm of there hand.


2 posted on 04/29/2010 3:14:34 AM PDT by Revel
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Any "American" who is pro-illegal should be stripped of citizenship and deported. This is TREASON.

And where is the IRS? Oh wait, it only cares about conservative clergy that wade into politics.

3 posted on 04/29/2010 3:22:52 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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if I was a member of a group that wouldn’t allow me to defend myself, I’d get the hell out !!!!!


4 posted on 04/29/2010 3:29:54 AM PDT by SF_Redux
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To: ketelone

I must be dense. The AZ law exactly mirrors Federal law, so even if the statement is true that Federal law pre-empts state law, how is that going to change that particular AZ law?

What can be done with people that delusional?


8 posted on 04/29/2010 3:32:06 AM PDT by BelegStrongbow (Ey, Paolo! uh-Clem just broke the Presideng...)
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To: Tennessee Nana; La Lydia; TADSLOS; maggief; SE Mom; STARWISE; hoosiermama; yorkie; ...
DOING MEXICO'S BIDDING----BLOCKING ARIZONA'S NEW LAW The National Coalition of Latino Clergy and Christian Leaders, The National Coalition of Latino Clergy and Christian Leaders, the American Civil Liberties Union and the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund, U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder, Andrew Chavez, head of a Phoenix-based petition-circulating firm and chairman of the One Arizona referendum campaign. State Rep. Ben Miranda, a Phoenix Democrat who will serve as the local attorney on the case. At least three Arizona cities also are considering lawsuits to block the law. Phoenix Mayor Phil Gordon retained legal counsel to prepare a lawsuit to file on behalf of the city. Tucson leaders and Flagstaff City Councilman Rick Swanson also are considering their options to block the law.

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REFERENCE U.S. Rep. Steve King. " I’m wondering if we look at the map of Arizona Congressman Grijalva’s congressional district, if we haven’t already ceded that component of Arizona to Mexico, judging by the voice that comes out of Grijalva. Grijalva’s advocating for Mexico rather than the United States and against the rule of law, which is one of the central pillars of American exceptionalism. Grijalva believes Arizona's new law, which requires law enforcement officials to demand papers from anyone they suspect is in the country illegally, is racist and does little more than “propagate the idea separate but equal treatment under the law can be codified,” Grijalva saud.

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ACTION NOW Arizonans should act now. Arizona elected officials under oath like Grijalva and the aforementioned who challenge the will of the people----that won’t enforce the new immigration law----are using public funds to aid and abet felonies against Arizona (and other US citizens).

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FOR EXAMPLE (1) Investors in Arizona tax-exempt bonds may have been misled about the use of their investments. (2) Arizona elected officials under oath like Grijalva and the aforementioned who challenge the will of the people----that won’t enforce new immigration law may have jeopardized investments in Arizona tax-exempt bonds

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ACTION Do the research on timelines when Arizona legislators voted for the sale of billions of tax-exempt bonds to finance law enforcement, schools, highways, water facilities, municipal and county grants, etc, etc, etc. These bonds were then sold to tax-exempt investors.

Sometimes bond sales are voted upon---in state ballot referenda. Arizona public officials may have mis-stated uses of tax-exempt bonds on referenda ballots.

If immigrants illegals voted on tax-exempt bond issues, that could negate the bond revenue and subject the illegals to prosecution

MISLEADING BOND INVESTORS IS A SERIOUS CRIME Investors in Arizona tax-exempt bonds were clearly misled about the use of tax-exempt bond revenue. The SEC closely monitors tax-exempt bond sales. The SEC takes a dim view about misleading tax-exempt investors and the misuse of tax-exempt bond revenue. So does the IRS.

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HERE'S WHAT TO DO:

(1) Express your concerns about Arizona elected officials under oath like Grijalva and the aforementioned who challenge the will of the people----that won’t enforce the new immigration law; this is a misappropriation of tax-exempt bond revenue.

EMAIL enforcement@SEC.gov.

(2) Contact the IRS to report suspected tax fraud and tax law violations by officials using tax-exempt bond revenue in ways not disclosed to investors.

IRS TOLL-FREE Tel 1-800-829-0433 You may remain anonymous.

(3) Arizona elected officials under oath like Grijalva and the aforementioned officials who challenge the will of the people----that won’t enforce new immigration law have co-opted investors in tax-exempt bonds; they should be reported for fiduciary negligence.

EMAIL askDOJ@USDOJ.gov

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Demand that banks holding Arizona tax-exempt bond revenue conduct an outside audit immediately and reveal their findings (or you will report banks to state and federal regulators).

Bond sales that were put to referendum are subject to penalties, since voters were misled about the uses of bond revenue.

The Arizona Secy of State should be asked to release all official documents filed WRT tax-exempt bond issues.

9 posted on 04/29/2010 3:39:56 AM PDT by Liz (If teens can procreate in a Volkswagen, why does a spotted owl need 2000 acres? JD Hayworth)
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“Latino Clergy and Christian Leaders”

Standing in a garage doesn’t make you a car. Calling yourself a car doesn’t make you a car. The only way to become a car is to be built by a car manufacturer.


10 posted on 04/29/2010 3:57:07 AM PDT by RoadTest (Religion is a substitute for the relationship God wants with you.)
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The arguments mentioned in the article are completely anf totally insane.

IOW, they are certain to pass judicial muster and win the day.

Not LOL.

P. S. Of course people can be detained before being convicted. It’s done every day.


11 posted on 04/29/2010 3:57:32 AM PDT by savedbygrace (Rev 22:20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord)
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At least we know who the enemy is.


13 posted on 04/29/2010 3:58:56 AM PDT by NYCslicker
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The sliminess of the pro illegal types defies no bounds!

And lefty politicians are in lock step with them, using tactics similar to what the Nazi's used. Yeah, you read that right, Nazi's you lefties! Stick that in your pipe and smoke it!

There are allot of us regular citizens, both on the left and on the right that want our borders secure and that illegals should be sent home and only allowed in the legal way.

14 posted on 04/29/2010 4:13:36 AM PDT by b4its2late (Bawney Fwank's mother should have thrown him away and kept the stork.)
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The arriviste parasites and moochers are descending en masse. They all want to take a bite out of a once great nation. The more illegal alien moochers you allow in through “kindness”, the more you will get later. Half of Mexico would move here if we had no borders.


16 posted on 04/29/2010 4:36:54 AM PDT by dennisw (It all comes 'round again --Fairport)
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A draft of the complaint obtained by The Associated Press shows the coalition will seek an injunction preventing authorities from enforcing the law. The group argues federal law pre-empts state regulation of national borders, and that Arizona's law violates due-process rights by allowing suspected illegal immigrants to be detained before they're convicted.

The pre-emption issue under the Supremecy Clause of Article VI of the Constitution may have some validity, if in fact, the Arizona Law is found to regulate the border. The problem with the arguement, however, is that the law has nothing to do with crossing the border, but rather, what happens once an illegal alien has already entered the State of Arizona illegally -- a subtle, but significant distinction.

The second argument will ultimately fail because law enforcement, by its very nature, results in the arrest and detention of people suspected of illegal activity. Just ask anyone who has been arrested for suspected DUI, suspected shoplifting, or suspected [fill in the crime]. Sometimes the police are wrong and the charges are dropped or the person is aquitted, but that does not mean that the underlying criminal statue is unconstitutional on its face. If a person is wrongfully detained, then the remedy is not to throw out the law, but to seek damages for false arrest, maliscious prosecution, or violation of civil rights under 42 USC §1981 et seq.

17 posted on 04/29/2010 4:47:10 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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We need to start spreading our own disinfo...

I dunno -- maybe something like once they are granted citizenship all the men over a certain age and below a certain age are going to be drafted and sent to fight in multiples of wars like Iraq. And maybe, throw in that the government has plans THEN to lock down the border so that they can't escape back to Mexico...we need to get creative. Just start massive disinfo campaigns aimed at making them distrust the Democrat party and scare them.

22 posted on 04/29/2010 5:07:58 AM PDT by riri
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I am participating in the reverse boycott of Arizona. I have transferred all my on line-biz to Arizona business. 1-800-Pet-Meds in FL loses for now, but Arizona wins. My doggie is happy too.

Finally a state law that helps American Workers get the jobs. With Utah, Ohio, Texas and a few others are working on passing a similar law, maybe all illegals, from any country will go home and work in their country or go to SF, Nanny P's district. What part of illegal doesn't Washington DC understand. Winds of change are in the air and coming soon.

Arizona Chamber of Commerce Directory. http://www.azchamber.com/localchambers/index.cfm?ID=34

Buy Arizona!

24 posted on 04/29/2010 5:18:40 AM PDT by Pit1
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I wonder how many of these people who are advocating for the poor Mexicans just trying to make a living will be going to Mexico with them to help them pull that country out of the sludge it is in. If they are so hard working, then they will be willing to work hard to make their own country prosperous.

Think of the improvements to that country that can be made with the skills that have been learned here in the US.

27 posted on 04/29/2010 5:44:01 AM PDT by McGavin999 (Have you donated to Free Republic yet? If not you are a Freeploader)
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The group argues federal law pre-empts state regulation of national borders,

So if the federal government REFUSES to protect its citizens, then the state is PREVENTED from doing it?

34 posted on 04/29/2010 7:05:34 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The US will not die with a whimper. It will die with thundering applause from the left.)
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Existing Federal immigration law specifically permits states to make arrests of those suspected of being in violation.

This is totally bogus.

37 posted on 04/29/2010 7:14:51 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The RINOcrat Party is still in charge. There has never been a conservative American government.)
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To: ketelone; SandRat
USC Title 8, Section 1324(c)

(c) Authority to arrest
No officer or person shall have authority to make any arrests for a violation of any provision of this section except officers and employees of the Service designated by the Attorney General, either individually or as a member of a class, and all other officers whose duty it is to enforce criminal laws.

Allow me to parse this:

No officer or person shall have authority to make any arrests [snip] except [list] and all other officers whose duty it is to enforce criminal laws.

Note: it doesn't say simply "Federal Laws," as there is a LONG history of state and local officials making arrests for incidences of Federal crimes.
39 posted on 04/29/2010 7:24:43 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The RINOcrat Party is still in charge. There has never been a conservative American government.)
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40 posted on 04/29/2010 8:37:17 AM PDT by wastedyears (The Founders revolted for less.)
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“allowing suspected illegal immigrants to be detained before they’re convicted”

I agree with the above post. That is just laughable.


41 posted on 04/29/2010 9:15:17 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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RINOs against the law:
Jeb Bush
Pawlenty
Rubio
Rick Perry
Dick Armey
Meg Whitman
Carly Fiorina
Crist (he did not say but he is a RINO)
MCCain
Graham-nesty


45 posted on 04/29/2010 10:51:27 AM PDT by Frantzie (McCain=Obama's friend. McCain & Graham = La Raza's favorite Senators)
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