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Karl Rove Speaks Out Against Arizona Immigration Law
CBS News - Political Hotsheet ^ | 2010-04-28 | Stephanie Condon

Posted on 04/28/2010 2:01:54 PM PDT by rabscuttle385

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To: nathanbedford
I believe Bush malignant neglect of the Mexican border was occasioned by a Christian conscience and not by any sinister motive.

If you believe this, then you've been duped.

In January 2001, George Bush took an oath which required him to faithfully enforce the laws. No fair observer can conclude that he has even halfheartedly attempted faithfully to enforce our immigration laws and to see that our borders are secure.

Three weeks after taking the oath of office, Bush met with Vicente Fox to work out the details of the Partnership for Prosperity Agreement (with Mexico). That agreement was signed on September 6, 2001. (talk about fast-track)

It was utterly within Bush's power during his tenure in office to have prevented all of this simply by enforcing existing laws, but he would not. Vigorous action along the southern frontier would have radically diminished the inflow of illegal aliens.

Bush could not vigorously enforce the immigration laws without 'harming' those who helped elect him, and whose bidding he was doing --Wall Street bankers. Never forget that Bush comes from a long line of Wall Street bankers and it is to them he owes his total allegiance.

There are a world of other facts surrounding Bush's actions to undermine the US economy while in office. Visit my FR home page.

41 posted on 04/28/2010 2:53:48 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Governement should be afraid of the people)
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To: rabscuttle385

Is anyone inside the beltway on our side?


42 posted on 04/28/2010 2:54:16 PM PDT by razorback-bert (So many questions, so few answers about Barry.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Shut up Karl and go away. You steered Bush wrong and helped lose the Congress in 2006 and I don’t get Hannity calling you “The Architect” You were the architect of death for the Republican majority.


43 posted on 04/28/2010 2:55:42 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker
Agree you can't have leaders without supporters. The same could be said about Obama. It is the voters' fault and they deserve what they get.

I still maintain that Rove is the symbol of what is wrong with the party. These gun for hire political consultants are only interested in winning an election, not in constructing a political party that reflects basic values and principles. Rove or Morris or Carville or Axelrod can work for any candidate of any political stripe. The power of the media to sell candidates like soap powder has changed the nature of politics. Image trumps substance.

44 posted on 04/28/2010 2:57:12 PM PDT by kabar
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To: rabscuttle385
You're really scrapping the bottom of toilets for this BS. There couldn't be more tepid, innocuous statements and he obviously didn't "come out against" the bill.

Not even a "nice try" on this one.

45 posted on 04/28/2010 2:57:48 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: rabscuttle385

While McCain has called the law a “good tool,” Rove by contrast, reportedly said, “At the end of the day ... I think there are better tools.”

Thats not exactly against it.


46 posted on 04/28/2010 3:00:09 PM PDT by linn37 ( "The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.)
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To: subterfuge

Try reading the article. This is obviously a typical attempt, using false pull quotes and a misrepresenting headline, to get the mythical “Republican rift” the Left needs to win in November.


47 posted on 04/28/2010 3:03:26 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: rabscuttle385
Why is everyone surprised? Karl Rove is a globalist as is the Bush clan, McRino, Grahamnesty, Texas Gov. Perry, etc...

You didn't think that NAFTA, reliance on UN "permission", the Security and Prosperity Pact or the establishment of NORTHCOM were in the best interests of Americans do you?

48 posted on 04/28/2010 3:04:16 PM PDT by SlaveNoMore
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To: Wisconsinlady

Read to the bottom of the piece. This is more anti-GOP misrepresentation from rabs.


49 posted on 04/28/2010 3:04:30 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: rabscuttle385
If the Arizona law requiring “papers” is unconstitutional does this mean ANY law requiring “papers” is also unconsitutional?

If so, then a 20-year old can enroll to play on a soccer team of 12-year olds, and no law can require him to prove his age with “papers”. Any attempts to oust such advanced adolescents can rightly be called profiling, and hence immoral and unconstitutional.

TSA can no longer require ID (”papers”) to fly on a commercial flight.

No more Driver's Licenses required—anywhere, because they are “papers”.

I can write bad checks to my heart's content, because stores can no longer require me to prove anything with “papers”.

I'm sure all these things will get the same treatment as the Arizona law.

50 posted on 04/28/2010 3:04:39 PM PDT by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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To: Wilderness Conservative

More idiocy.


51 posted on 04/28/2010 3:05:03 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: rabscuttle385

I don’t see all the furor.

Rove is not saying he doesn’t agree with the law. He’s saying there may be problems with it being declared unconstitutional, and he’s probably speaking from a political standpoint that it takes the focus off the democrats.


52 posted on 04/28/2010 3:05:48 PM PDT by I still care (I believe in the universality of freedom -George Bush, asked if he regrets going to war.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Tar and feathers needed


53 posted on 04/28/2010 3:06:35 PM PDT by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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To: ATX 1985
I wish we could give amnesty to a certain amount of people that are willing to learn English and pay thousands in fines.

Yeah, let's just dismiss that silly old Rule of Law concept and reward lawbreakers with what they want, i.e., legalized status that allows them to stay and work here. And let's sell citizenship for a few thousand dollars and the learning of English. And forget about fairness to the almost three million intending immigrants who have completed all of the paperwork and checks and who are waiting overseas for their turn to come up, some for up to ten years. What jerks.

I wish we could give amnesty to these Mexicans using the same rigorous standards that we put on legal immigrants, if you don't have a skill then you aren't welcome on a longterm basis.

We don't have a merit based immigration system now. It is based on kinship. The overwhelming majority of legal immigrants we bring in every year are poor, unskilled, and uneducated. 53% of immigrant headed households in this country are on welfare. We are importing poverty.

54 posted on 04/28/2010 3:07:44 PM PDT by kabar
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To: rabscuttle385

Maybe if he lived in Douglas, AZ for a few months, he’d think differently.


55 posted on 04/28/2010 3:08:18 PM PDT by Tuxedo (USA ----> CCCP)
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To: Deb

Do you think Rove read the bill? How can he say it has Constitutional problems?


56 posted on 04/28/2010 3:12:16 PM PDT by kabar
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To: I still care
Rove is not saying he doesn’t agree with the law. He’s saying there may be problems with it being declared unconstitutional, and he’s probably speaking from a political standpoint that it takes the focus off the democrats.

That's the problem. Rove could care less about the problems citizens are confronted with in AZ. So what if people are killed, robbed, raped, etc by illegal aliens. So what if AZ is going broke trying to cope with the cost of illegals. Let them eat cake.

57 posted on 04/28/2010 3:17:21 PM PDT by kabar
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To: rabscuttle385
"I wished they hadn't passed it, in a way."

Karl, You and Bush had eight years to fix it correctly, but you were determined to ignore fellow Republicans and ram amnesty down our throats, so don't complain when others are doing your work.

58 posted on 04/28/2010 3:18:28 PM PDT by RJL
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To: kabar
Image trumps substance.

Who believes Duh-bya was a rancher simply because he bought land in Crawford and drove around in a pick-up truck while wearing a Stetson?

Talk about all hat and no cattle.

But, a lot of folks around these parts and across America swallowed it hook, line and sinker.

Many still do. Just like a lot believe he is a good, Christian man.

59 posted on 04/28/2010 3:18:39 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Governement should be afraid of the people)
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To: Seaplaner
Gee thanks, Karl, because I was "this" close to buying your book.

Newt did the same thing, just as his last book came out he angered about 90% of Republicans and Conservatives.

60 posted on 04/28/2010 3:21:40 PM PDT by RJL
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