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NY Times Suggests Modern Conservative Movement Lacks Intellectual Sophistication
Newsbusters ^ | April 28, 2010 | Jeff Poor

Posted on 04/28/2010 1:51:06 PM PDT by Rufus2007

So what happens when you put the likes of David Frum, Bruce Bartlett and now apparently Jim Manzi - pseudo-conservatives with a penchant for criticizing Republicans and other conservatives all in the same place?

You have the makings of a New York Times hit piece on conservatism. In the April 27 issue of the Times, a story in its Style section of all places by Patricia Cohen, singled out and accused a number of conservatives of "closed-mindedness" or as the article claimed "epistemic closure."

"It is hard to believe that a phrase as dry as ‘epistemic closure' could get anyone excited, but the term has sparked a heated argument among conservatives in recent weeks about their movement's intellectual health," Cohen wrote. "The phrase is being used as shorthand by some prominent conservatives for a kind of closed-mindedness in the movement, a development they see as debasing modern conservatism's proud intellectual history."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: conservatives; davidfrum; enemedia; liberalfascism; liberalmedia; marklevin; mediabias; nytimes
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Imagine waking up in the morning and having to write this kind of story, of all the things going on in the world... Must be a miserable life.
1 posted on 04/28/2010 1:51:07 PM PDT by Rufus2007
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LOL! The elitist morons crack me up on their opinions.


2 posted on 04/28/2010 1:53:36 PM PDT by Sprite518
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Yeah, right we could all be real sophisticated like this guy:

Obama's Mentor
3 posted on 04/28/2010 1:53:49 PM PDT by Fred (Vote for a REID FREE NEVADA....)
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Seriously?

As a group, I would bet that the entire editorial board of the NYT couldn’t change a flat tire.


4 posted on 04/28/2010 1:53:55 PM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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The main problem with the Left is that it is full of nutty ideas.

So it seems if you reject nutty ideas then you are closed-minded.


5 posted on 04/28/2010 1:54:19 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Arizona will have the last laugh.)
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And, someone out there CARES about the NYT?


6 posted on 04/28/2010 1:55:17 PM PDT by arrdon (Never underestimate the stupidity of the American Voter.)
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Well, I sat here for 10 seconds trying to work up an ounce of concern but I just don’t care what the NYT thinks. They have proved over and over they are elitists without the qualifications to be elite.


7 posted on 04/28/2010 1:55:36 PM PDT by highlander_UW (First we take down the Democrats, then we clean the Augean stable that is the GOP.)
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I read FR and other conservatives sites then I read comments in the WaPo articles.

To suggest that there isn’t an enormously noticeable difference between the two camps is to deny reality. Unfortunately, the ‘intellectual sophistication’ is lacking on the LEFT side, not the right.

Vocabulary, sentence structure/complexity, spelling, etc. They are easy fodder for flame wars but the undeniable fact is that education (the real kind, not the public school flavor) is sorely lacking on the left.


8 posted on 04/28/2010 1:57:54 PM PDT by relictele
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I read FR and other conservatives sites then I read comments in the WaPo articles.

To suggest that there isn’t an enormously noticeable difference between the two camps is to deny reality. Unfortunately, the ‘intellectual sophistication’ is lacking on the LEFT side, not the right.

Vocabulary, sentence structure/complexity, spelling, etc. They are easy fodder for flame wars but the undeniable fact is that education (the real kind, not the public school flavor) is sorely lacking on the left.


9 posted on 04/28/2010 1:57:55 PM PDT by relictele
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Yeah boy dats what we needs is some of that Sintophysical Stimulation....er stuff...


10 posted on 04/28/2010 1:58:08 PM PDT by Walkingfeather
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He’s confusing “sophistication” with “sophistry.”


11 posted on 04/28/2010 1:58:09 PM PDT by HIDEK6
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The conservative movement does lack “Intellectual Sophistication” - it has wisdom and real-world, time-honored knowledge instead.

Obama is a great example of “intellectual sophistication” and I’d rather not have anything to do with his brand of weak, Stage 1, oppressive, new-European rationalization.


12 posted on 04/28/2010 1:58:50 PM PDT by Noamie
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As a group, I would bet that the entire editorial board of the NYT couldn’t change a flat tire.

Or a light bulb.

13 posted on 04/28/2010 1:59:40 PM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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The main problem with the Left is that it is full of nutty ideas.

Not just nutty ideas, but nutty ideas that only really work on a grand scale...when implemented by really smart people...

14 posted on 04/28/2010 2:00:58 PM PDT by LearnsFromMistakes (Tag line deleted...don't want to incite violence...)
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When you live inside a hermetically sealed bell jar, drivel like this takes on momentous import.
15 posted on 04/28/2010 2:01:36 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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New York Times calling conservatives snotty names . . . so easy . . .


16 posted on 04/28/2010 2:01:41 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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Who determines what is classified as Intellectual Sophistication? Is this not the height of arrogance? I would like to know who the Liberal intellectual sophisticants are. Harry Reid? Nancy Pelosi? Barack Obama?


17 posted on 04/28/2010 2:02:03 PM PDT by Nosterrex
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The Left hasn’t had any intellectual sophistication in 45 years. Lots of intellectual pretense, though.


18 posted on 04/28/2010 2:02:10 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The enormous crimes in history were all perpetrated by governments.)
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epistemic closure

If Obama and gang did the same thing they NYTimes would be praising it as "resolute idealism".

19 posted on 04/28/2010 2:03:07 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (I am so immune to satire that I ate three Irish children after reading Swift's "A Modest Proposal")
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They are desperately trying to divide the party. They lost on the “Tea Partiers are racist” thing, they’re losing Indys left and right and now they’re going to try to peel away as many Crist style Repubs as possible. Obama is the worst investment these elitists ever made. They should tow his ass on into the garage ‘cause that engine is blown, and the frame is warped. They might as well start shopping for a new ride.


20 posted on 04/28/2010 2:03:14 PM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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