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(Vanity question) Aren't "green cards" considered "papers"?
n/a ^ | 4-28-10 | Myself

Posted on 04/28/2010 11:10:41 AM PDT by Texas Eagle

I heard a caller tell Rush Limbaugh that he was a Green Card holder and that when he received his card he also received a packet of information which contained instructions for him to have his Card with him at all times.

So, my question is: Isn't the Obama administration guilty of Nazi like tactics also?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012electionbias; birthcertificatelaw; certifigate; greencards; illegalaliens; illegals; immigration; mexicans; vanity
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To: Canedawg

I carried my green card for years until I naturalized.

It is “papers”. I know, I carried one.


61 posted on 04/28/2010 12:22:54 PM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: TruthConquers

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2009/sep/29/roman-polanski-whoopi-goldberg


62 posted on 04/28/2010 12:24:26 PM PDT by Canedawg (I'm not digging this tyranny thing.)
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To: YoungHickey
Right, I read the bill. And, the person cited is a politician, running for office. I know what "lawful contact" means, and IT DOESN'T only mean an instance where detention comes into play.

As an example, police everyday come into "lawful contact" with witnesses and victims of crimes. What the law says, is after lawful contact has been established, the police may ask the "suspect" (for lack of a better word) to evidence of his legal residency or citizenship, if the LEO has a reasonable suspicion that the person they've lawfully contacted is in the country illegally.

So, the police under this law may also ask for the passengers of a car that they've stopped to provide proof of residency or citizenship, even though it's VERY difficult for a passenger to be a suspect in a moving violation.

Kobach was speaking as a man running for office, not rending an accurate characterization of the law as a law professor.

63 posted on 04/28/2010 12:28:14 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: dawn53
It’s just so ambiguous, the talk of “papers”...they’ll have to set down specifics.

It's not ambiguous at all.

ALL Permanent Residents are required to carry their "Green Card."
All Nonresident aliens are required to carry their Passport with a valid US Visa.

Green Card holders are Told about that requirement when the document is issued.
Visa holders are told about the requirement when they enter the US.

64 posted on 04/28/2010 12:36:38 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Iran should have ceased to exist Nov 5, 1979, but we had no president then either.)
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To: circlecity

I went to see Gladys Knight the other evening and they refused to let me into the theater until I had shown the authorities there my papers (a/k/a my ticket) and until after the ticket had been successfully scanned for authenticity. (What a bunch of crybaby hustlers—what an insult that they believe that a thinking American person with any dignity and intestinal fortitude would be bullied and intimidated to be coped by their line of crap!).


65 posted on 04/28/2010 12:40:24 PM PDT by dtrpscout (A bad dog is better than most good people.)
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To: Raider Sam
So, if someone posts something Rush says, you are automatically going to demean it?

I demeaned nothing. I stated that if one thing he says is noteworthy, so are all of them.

You are making an extreme leap to go from someone agreeing that showing green cards is akin to showing papers, to then say that everything should be immoratlized.

I did not address the content of what Limbaugh said, only the
fact that someone thinks his every utterance is noteworthy.

You dont like Rush because other people do?

I like him just fine, I'm just not a cheerleader
who will sit around gushing over his every word.

Why are you so obsessed with what other people like?

Am I?

66 posted on 04/28/2010 12:42:34 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo is very wily)
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To: ASA Vet
It's not ambiguous at all. ALL Permanent Residents are required to carry their "Green Card." All Nonresident aliens are required to carry their Passport with a valid US Visa. Green Card holders are Told about that requirement when the document is issued. Visa holders are told about the requirement when they enter the US.

But you forgot one category...ALL citizens of the US must carry "what?" to prove they're a citizen?

67 posted on 04/28/2010 12:46:40 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: dawn53

Works for me.
I could carry my Nexus Card. That would work.


68 posted on 04/28/2010 12:51:23 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ilk)
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To: Grizzled Bear

I’m taking it out now.
Thanks!


69 posted on 04/28/2010 12:52:01 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ilk)
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To: humblegunner

Look it...


70 posted on 04/28/2010 12:53:27 PM PDT by TankerKC (I think P. T. Barnum had his time off by about 59 seconds.)
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To: TankerKC
Look it...

Folks...

71 posted on 04/28/2010 12:56:42 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo is very wily)
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To: Kickass Conservative

Ask the Democrats why they INSIST on “background checks” for patriotic Americans to exercise their CONSTITUTIONAL right to obtain and bear arms.


72 posted on 04/28/2010 12:57:04 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The hysteria of Matthewsism and Andersonism has led to a Tea Party Scare that is unAmerican.)
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To: OldDeckHand
So, the police under this law may also ask for the passengers of a car that they've stopped to provide proof of residency or citizenship, even though it's VERY difficult for a passenger to be a suspect in a moving violation.

Most of the time I have been the passenger in a car at night and the driver has been pulled over for an infraction, I've seen them collect up ALL licenses/identity to run them (for outstanding warrants, etc.).

It is foolish to believe that this isn't already going on in police departments (asking for "papers" regardless of ethnicity).

73 posted on 04/28/2010 1:01:08 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The hysteria of Matthewsism and Andersonism has led to a Tea Party Scare that is unAmerican.)
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To: humblegunner

Let not your heart be...wait. Never mind.


74 posted on 04/28/2010 1:01:48 PM PDT by TankerKC (I think P. T. Barnum had his time off by about 59 seconds.)
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To: dawn53

US Citizens are not a category of NON-Citizen.

As you know, US Citizens are not required to carry proof of Citizenship unless they are returning to the US from another country.


75 posted on 04/28/2010 1:03:12 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Iran should have ceased to exist Nov 5, 1979, but we had no president then either.)
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To: humblegunner

You demeaned it when you compared a point made in the show to a commercial.

You did address his content. You asked if we should discuss his commercials because we were discussing the content of his show. By the way, what is wrong with discussing this particular item from his show?

Who is being a cheerleader gushing on his every word? Some people on this board are disagreeing with his statement (that was actually made by a caller) and others are agreeing with it for reasons other than “Rush said it.”

And when you ask someone why they chose a topic, it shows you are more interested in what that person likes than either leaving or addressing the topic.


76 posted on 04/28/2010 1:08:17 PM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: maddogconservative
Green Card Holders do have to carry the green cards on them at all times, but they usually only show them to Immigration Officials & State Department.

They also need to show the green card when they buy firearms from a licensed dealer. Those are sold only to citizens and green card holders.

77 posted on 04/28/2010 1:08:29 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: TankerKC

You’re a great American.


78 posted on 04/28/2010 1:10:29 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo is very wily)
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To: netmilsmom

I guess, for me, the real issue is not what do the illegals have to carry to prove they’re here legally...they actually have papers, green card, visa, etc. But rather what do American citizens have to carry to prove they’re not illegals.

Will a voter ID do, a driver’s license, what about a driver’s license from another state (since there are lots of tourists in Arizona.) We’ve already established the gov’t says don’t carry your SS card with you. Shall we all get a Passport and make sure we carry it when we go to Arizona?

It’s a slippery slope! One administration might mean it for good, but it could quickly be turned to be used for bad.


79 posted on 04/28/2010 1:12:52 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: Raider Sam
You demeaned it

Ohhhkay.

You did address his content.

Alllrighty then.

Who is being a cheerleader gushing on his every word?

He spoke 'em, you read 'em and comment. Do you do the same for everyone?

Some people on this board are disagreeing with his statement

Thanks for pointing that out.

80 posted on 04/28/2010 1:14:07 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo is very wily)
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