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IT'S ILLEGAL TO BE ILLEGAL
boblonsberry.com ^ | 04/28/10 | Bob Lonsberry

Posted on 04/28/2010 5:52:11 AM PDT by shortstop

It should be illegal to be illegal.

Isn't that, after all, what "illegal" means?

I don't understand the fuss over Arizona. A state, long plagued by the failure of the federal government to enforce immigration laws, has taken a step to protect itself.It has declared being an illegal immigrant a misdemeanor, an act of trespass, under state law. And it has empowered its police, in the course of their contacts with people, to inquire about and verify immigrant status.

And the fit has hit the shan.The president has condemned it, Al Sharpton is going to protest it, marchers have attacked police over it, talking heads have cursed it, and Arizonans have cheered it.

In fact, 70 percent of the people in Arizona agree with the legislation. Interestingly, the Census says that 30 percent of the people in Arizona are Latinos. Across the country, 60 percent of the people agree with Arizona's new law.

And yet with unwavering orthodoxy, the commisars of American political correctness have denounced the law, the state and the people. It is as if from the perspective of the studios of New York, the people of Arizona are seen as some Neanderthal subspecies about to form into chapters of the Ku Klux Klan. No credence is given to the Arizona position, no consideration of the damage done that state is taken into account, no balance is given to the story.

The Arizonans are wrong, the illegals are right, it's all about racism and xenophobia. Anybody who doesn't agree with the president and the evening news is a racist.

Which is all a bunch of crap.

If somebody breaks into your house, do you make them a sandwich and give them the keys to the car? Do they, by virture of climbing in the window, earn the right to a place on your couch and at your table?

Of course not.

If somebody breaks into your house, you put your arse-kicking boots on and you chase them out of your home and off your property. You protect what is yours.

It seems like the same thing ought to apply to your country.

Some 20 million people have broken into our country. Against our law, contrary to our national interest, at great hurt to our society.

And if you say anything about it you are a racist and the president is going to send the Justice Department after you.

Well, that's ridiculous.

The law must have meaning, because when it doesn't, we are the ones who lose. Abraham Lincoln said that it was the law that makes us free, that our system of representative government requires all citizens to uphold the law which they through their elected representatives have had a hand in creating and affirming. When we ignore law, when we turn against the will of the people it represents, we turn lose a capricious tyranny that one day may come back to haunt us all.

And for three presidential administrations now, we have been ignoring the borders and laws of this country.

Few places have felt the pain of that approach more than Arizona. Many of its hospitals and schools are gutted, its social welfare budget is busted, its urban streets are rife with gang violence, its rural border areas are a no-man's land where drugs cartels and human smugglers operate with impunity. The social collapse of northern Mexico is seeping over the border and is suffocating southern Arizona.

And Arizona has decided to do something about it.After years of pleading with the federal government, Arizona has decided to take a stand.

When police have contact with people, and those people have characteristics common to illegal aliens -- can't speak English, no drivers license, no insurance or registration, no identification -- the police will be allowed to ask their status and verify it. Does that mean they start pulling over brown people, like the president and the activists say? Absolutely not. Does it mean the police are going to stop looking the other way, absolutely so.

Is this discrimination?

No.

Will this make Arizona an inhospitable place for illegal aliens?

Hopefully.How would a challenged person prove their status? By showing either a visa or a drivers license -- or even a welfare card. There's no need to carry "papers," and even the visa for foreign guests is already required by federal law to be carried at all times. Of course, federal law also requires that illegal aliens stay on the other side of the border.

If a person is found to be in the country illegally, what happens? They are taken into custody, and they face a state misdemeanor charge which will probably most times be dismissed when they are turned over to federal immigration custody. What happens if Barack Obama orders federal officials not to accept the custody of the illegal aliens? Well, we'll find out when such a refused alien is released and subsequently commits some heinous crime.

This isn't discrimination, this isn't racism, this is common sense.It is self-defense.This is the the state of Arizona doing what the federal government lacks the stones to do.

Arizona is simply saying that it's illegal to be illegal.


TOPICS: Editorial; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; arizona; bloggersandpersonal; illegal; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; lonsberry; noamnestyforillegals
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22 posted on 04/28/2010 7:21:42 AM PDT by whd23
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To: SMARTY
ENOUGH!!!!

We the people, have allowed the importation of poverty every since the USA passed the last ever amnesty bill in 1986. Ted Kennedy's own words

Ted Kennedy on the 1986 Simpson-Mazzoli Bill, Quote: "This amnesty will give citizenship to only 1.1 to 1.3 million illegal aliens. We will secure the borders henceforth. We will never again bring forward another amnesty bill like this." End of Quote.
23 posted on 04/28/2010 7:37:34 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barack Hussein 0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: FrankR
Even in so-called open immigration countries such as Canada, they have reasonable controls. My brother once worked for the U.S. office of a Canadian company which wanted to transfer him to the home office in Toronto for a project which was supposed to last about eight months before they transferred him to their Japan office for his next assignment.

It took them three months to secure a visa for an eight month project, which he ended up completing in six months. They had to first prove they couldn't find a Canadian to do the job.

24 posted on 04/28/2010 8:27:41 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: shortstop
"The law must have meaning, because when it doesn't, we are the ones who lose."

Ah, would that anything in life worked that way. In fact the law has no meaning because the Communist Party treats the law as a stick to beat the law abiding with, while all current or even just prospective Party Members can ignore it with impunity. And not just on this issue, on every issue. The Communist Party considers itself above the law, which it considers its instrument for ruling the non-members and nothing else.

And as long as half the country continues to operate that way, there is no law. Don't kid yourselves, that is where we are.

"When we ignore law, when we turn against the will of the people it represents"

Would that the people were so united and had any will to speak of. They do not. They are divided, leaderless, gullible. They give hardened Communists the benefit of every doubt and just want to get along with men who hate them and want to grind their faces into the sand.

"we turn loose a capricious tyranny that one day may come back to haunt us all."

It's loose. Wake up.

25 posted on 04/28/2010 10:11:23 AM PDT by JasonC
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To: shortstop; SierraWasp; tubebender; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Liz; BOBTHENAILER

My wife has been anti illegals for over a decade.

Unlike our two sons and I, who are very outspoken about this issue, she refuses to get into esoteric discussions and labeling.

She uses the word illegal to describe those who came into this country illegally and stay in it illegally.

This simple word drives the PC liberals even more insane.


26 posted on 04/28/2010 10:13:06 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Use your $'s as weapons! Boycott Gay Frisco, since they keep Pelosi in congress.)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

Ping!


27 posted on 04/28/2010 10:17:43 AM PDT by HiJinx (~ Illegal is a Crime, it is not a Race ~)
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To: shortstop

Dubya, Rove, McCain, and the rest of the GOP’s No Borders Compassion Lobby couldn’t figure out what “illegal” means.


28 posted on 04/28/2010 1:59:30 PM PDT by Pelham (Obamacare, the new Final Solution.)
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To: kabar

Very good and informative. I had been told this. It seems as though Obama and the Democrats along with the MSM are trying to stir up a racial confrontation and make as though it is white folks doing it. White America had better come to its senses and see we are being attacked by the Democrats. This could very well be another Waco on a bigger scale.


29 posted on 04/28/2010 2:03:56 PM PDT by RocketRoland
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To: RocketRoland
LOL. It has nothing to do with race. 54% of Hispanics self-describe themselves as white. Hispanics/Latinos come in all races. And the reality is that there is no such ethnicity as Hispanic or Latino. This is all about identity politics.

Since the 1965 Immigration Act, our pro-population growth immigration policies have fueled major demographic changes in a very short period of time. In 1970, non-Hispanic whites comprised 89 percent of the population; today they are 66 percent; and by 2042, they will be 50 percent. The Democrats, under the banner of multiculturalism and diversity, have forged a political coalition that depends on individuals coalescing around racial and ethnic identities rather than the issues. The continuing and increasing flow of minority immigrants, mostly poor and uneducated, provide a natural constituency for the Democrats, which see them as their principal source of political power.

The Democrats [and some Republicans] have been successful in branding conservatives who want the rule of law enforced against illegal aliens and reduced levels of immigration as nativists, racists, and xenophobes. Citing the old saw that the United States is a nation of immigrants and using anecdotal, but by no means representational, examples of immigrants being mistreated, they deploy emotion and invective to intimidate and isolate the opposition. According to the Democrats, the Republican Party is comprised of old white men who are racists and revanchists bent on returning us to pre-Civil War days.

The irony is that immigration can be a winning issue for Republicans. Our views on immigration actually coincide with those of the majority of the American people. We need not be apologetic or defensive. Republicans must be more proactive and less reactive. They must be willing to take a principled stand on the issue even if it means polarization, being the object of demagoguery, and short-term political losses. Unless Republicans redefine the battlefield and terms of engagement, they will continue to lose the war.

The Republican strategy on immigration should be based on the core principles of the party, i.e., national security, limited government, the rule of law and the Constitution, and individual responsibility. Immigration is an issue that cuts across partisan lines. There are plenty of independents and Reagan Democrats who are affected adversely by immigration and hold far different views than the Democrat political leadership, union bosses, religious leaders, etc. Republicans need to articulate their message better to tap into those constituencies. That said, pandering and outreach to minorities don’t work. Republicans lose when they try to play identity politics against the Democrats and it just reinforces their framing of the issue. Republicans must appeal to the interests of the individual voter with a universal message regardless of race, ethnicity, or gender.

30 posted on 04/28/2010 2:27:14 PM PDT by kabar
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To: shortstop

I find the timing of this law very interesting. I wonder how many illegals will be counted in the census...before they are sent back to ol’ Mexico.

Financially this could be really good for the State of Arizona.


31 posted on 04/28/2010 2:28:18 PM PDT by proudpapa (Proudpapa)
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To: kabar
Could be encouraging. Just go through reading where the FBI Agent in charge of the investigation of the Militia in Michigan could not give facts at the bond hearing. Says the Judge is even confused. I do not know what is going on in t6his country but it isnt good.
32 posted on 04/28/2010 2:54:31 PM PDT by RocketRoland
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To: Liz

Liz, very well stated. One more benefit is “Voting.”
They can vote, no one checks to verify they are citizens or have the right to vote.


33 posted on 04/28/2010 6:41:31 PM PDT by Jennikins (It matters not what we want, as we are being ruled, not governed.)
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