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Amen to that...........
1 posted on 04/27/2010 7:51:04 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/11.09/ppt2.html

“Powerpoint is Evil” by Edward Tufte

If anyone understands the visual display of information, it’s Tufte.


2 posted on 04/27/2010 7:53:59 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Sub-Driver

PowerPoint is an effective tool if used properly.

The problem is, most don’t.


3 posted on 04/27/2010 7:56:13 AM PDT by TSgt (We will always be prepared, so we may always be free. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Sub-Driver

We used to call it “Death by PowerPoint” in the Navy and that was 5 years ago. I imagine it’s gotten horrible.


5 posted on 04/27/2010 7:59:22 AM PDT by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG 49) "Freedom's Fortress")
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To: Sub-Driver
Power Point evil? Oh PuhLEEEZE!

This is precisely the same thought process which leads to the false conclusion that guns are evil.

PowerPoint is a tool. Before PP, it was an overhead projector, or a chalkboard, or a big pad of paper on an easel. None of those tools "make us stupid."

Place the blame where it belongs. The creator of bad PowerPoint presentations may deserve criticism, derision or maybe just better training and instruction on making good presentations.

Neither Microsoft nor that particular installation of PowerPoint created the hated "spaghetti bowl" slide. It was a person. And people are responsible for their actions. Their tools are not.

It's a bit disturbing to me that some of our top commanders are ready to blame the tool for a poor result rather than its user.

7 posted on 04/27/2010 8:06:13 AM PDT by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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You don't win wars by doing PowerPoint slides for your country.

You win wars by making the other poor dumb son-of-a-bitch do PowerPoint slides for his country.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

8 posted on 04/27/2010 8:13:08 AM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: Sub-Driver

PowerPoint is a lot like PBS and talk radio.
2 minutes of information stretched into an hour show.


10 posted on 04/27/2010 8:15:47 AM PDT by astyanax (Liberalism: Logic's retarded cousin.)
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To: Sub-Driver

I HATE Powerpoint, but I am forced to teach it AUGH!!!!!!


11 posted on 04/27/2010 8:16:02 AM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: Sub-Driver
The Gettysburg Powerpoint Presentation - 11/19/1863
12 posted on 04/27/2010 8:17:32 AM PDT by B Knotts (Impeach Obama)
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To: Sub-Driver

When you have nothing to say.....say it with Power Point!


15 posted on 04/27/2010 8:20:33 AM PDT by occamrzr06
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Very simple rule. . .never put anything on a slide that you don't specifically mention in your presentation. If you must use a graph or chart. . .build it incrementally in concert with what you are talking about. Use "sans serif" fonts like Arial, Arial black and not Times New Roman. Another rule, the audience looks at you and only looks to the screen when you look to the screen. . .one more. . .back screening is best so that you can stand near the screen (there is a reason the weatherman stands in front of the weathermap). . .the worst is when the speaker is on stage left and the screen is on stage right.. . .just a few ideas that help to make pp work better.
19 posted on 04/27/2010 8:40:21 AM PDT by McBuff
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Commander s LOVE slides. In the day we used basic overhead projectors and commanders couldn’t get enough slides. They use PowerPoint today and the abuses of superficial information has grown.


20 posted on 04/27/2010 8:58:23 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: Sub-Driver
If your doing a presentation with power point.....it is not the presentation....The presentation needs to stand on it own merit

I view Power Point as the notes I would take (and hope you would take) if I were viewing that presentation.... nothing more

That way you audience in engaged with you and not busy taking notes...

And that also why you give them a printed copy before you start, so that can make their own additional notes on the slides

21 posted on 04/27/2010 8:58:30 AM PDT by tophat9000 (It ain't about Black... It ain't about White...It's about a Red...Trying to take our rights!)
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To: Sub-Driver
If your doing a presentation with power point.....it is not the presentation....The presentation needs to stand on it own merit

I view Power Point as the notes I would take (and hope you would take) if I were viewing that presentation.... nothing more

That way you audience in engaged with you and not busy taking notes...

And that also why you give them a printed copy before you start, so that can make their own additional notes on the slides

Or even simpler...Power Point is what you would put on the chalk board or white board

22 posted on 04/27/2010 9:01:59 AM PDT by tophat9000 (It ain't about Black... It ain't about White...It's about a Red...Trying to take our rights!)
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Specifically mentioned in the Columbia report is a PowerPoint slide used by the Engineers briefing the foam strike. Due to the amount of information and the poor presentation it minimized the potential danger. Also, in the report, NASA provided what were supoosed to be “engineering reports” in a PP format to the investigating board, absent any data and actual scientific method. Used correctly I guess it can be effective, I just need someone to tell me what “correctly” is. (IMHO)


23 posted on 04/27/2010 9:34:21 AM PDT by Sursam Abordine
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To: Sub-Driver

Interesting for a general to say, “Some problems in the world are not bullet-izable.” Bring in the heavy artillery?


24 posted on 04/27/2010 9:44:13 AM PDT by drubyfive
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To: Sub-Driver

I have to agree. The skills of presentation, particularly in the text area, have really deteriorated over the years.

I don’t hate Powerpoint but I do use it sparingly.


25 posted on 04/27/2010 10:26:24 AM PDT by texmexis best (My)
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To: Sub-Driver; rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; Salo; Bobsat; JosephW; ...

27 posted on 04/27/2010 12:09:21 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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Sounds as if the military is finally driving a wooden stake through the heart of the corpse of Robert McNamara.
28 posted on 04/27/2010 12:55:12 PM PDT by Calvinist_Dark_Lord ((I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper))
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To: Sub-Driver; Tijeras_Slim

31 posted on 04/27/2010 1:43:39 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Sub-Driver
Powerpoint comes from the depths of Hell itself!


35 posted on 05/17/2010 7:17:14 PM PDT by uglybiker (BACON!!)
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