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Police raid Gizmodo editor's home
Tech Fortune at CNN.com ^ | April 26, 2010 5:37 PM | Philip Elmer-DeWitt

Posted on 04/26/2010 4:17:17 PM PDT by Smogger

Cops break open front door and seize computers in investigation of lost iPhone prototype.

It looks like the police are taking this pretty seriously.

Armed with a search warrant, members of California's Rapid Enforcement Allied Computer Team broke into a private home Friday night and seized computers and other electronic equipment, according to a report posted Monday on Gizmodo.

The home belonged to Jason Chen, the Gizmodo editor who published photographs and videos of a top secret prototype iPhone left at a bar by a young Apple engineer. Gizmodo has admitted paying $5,000 for the device, which it turned over on request to Apple (AAPL), but only after cracking it open and publishing details about its parts and specifications.

It's not clear at this time whether Apple or the local district attorney initiated the investigation. Apple has not replied to a request for clarification.

The search warrant, signed by a San Mateo County Superior Court judge, said the equipment seized may have been used to commit a felony.

"My wife and I drove to dinner and got back at about 9:45," begins Chen's description of the event. "When I got home I noticed that the garage door was half open, and when I tried to open it, officers came out and said they had a warrant to search my house and any vehicles on the property 'in my control.' Then they made me place my hands behind my head and searched me to make sure I had no weapons or sharp objects on me."

Photocopies of the warrant and a list of the equipment seized (including one box of business cards for "suspect chen") are available here. Chen's full statement below the fold.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: apple; gizmodo; iphone
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To: SmokingJoe

And you think the trigger analogy is stupid? Moron.


101 posted on 04/26/2010 6:12:22 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
An item does not magically become “abandoned” (legally) when someone leaves it at a bar, nor can it magically become abandoned by speaking to someone who does not have the authority to abandon it

That someone(official Apple representative), DID have the authority to take the abandoned product back, speaking as a bona fide representative of Apple. They not only rejected the product, and they wouldn't even acknowledge that Apple had lost anything. Apple can blame someone else for their own utter stupidity and screw-ups

102 posted on 04/26/2010 6:13:31 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: 1rudeboy
And you think the trigger analogy is stupid?

You still don't see that comparing some me-too smartphone to losing the secrets to the trigger mechanism to America's nuclear arsenal is really retarded?
Say, when nut house did you escape from recently?

103 posted on 04/26/2010 6:16:38 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: 1rudeboy

your call may be recorded (is recorded) for quality assurance purposes.

apple does not dispute the attempt to return.

I am curious as to what they thought they would find after the phone was returned.


104 posted on 04/26/2010 6:16:48 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Poison Pill
That is a good question, and one that will be determined in court. The judge signing the search warrant may simply have said to himself, "reasonable cause to believe that a crime has been committed" and kicked the can down the road.

I assure you, the judge did NOT consider the interesting (I'm being generous) legal theories regarding property law that are being propounded on this thread.

105 posted on 04/26/2010 6:16:53 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: SmokingJoe
Apple can blame someone else for their own utter stupidity and screw-ups.

Show me on this doll where the man from Apple touched you.

106 posted on 04/26/2010 6:18:25 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

As long as you get ya ugly mutt outta Steve Job’s butt.


107 posted on 04/26/2010 6:19:51 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe
That's what's been humorous about our exchange: 1. I don't give a damn about Steve Jobs, 2. you don't like Apple, and 3. you think it allows you to make up bullcrap about property law.

The Apple part is simply a sideshow for me . . . if anyone thinks we live in an over-litigated society, they simply have to read your responses here. You are simply ignorant. There is no other way to put it.

108 posted on 04/26/2010 6:23:35 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
you think it allows you to make up bullcrap about property law.

At least I am making sense, and I am not comparing some smart phone to American nuclear secrets like you kept doing.
You have kept insisting that a guy that found a phone, that some Apple employee had carelessly left behind in a bar, then REPEATEDLY tried to return said phone to Apple, only for the Apple's official representatives to repeatedly refuse to accept the phone or even acknowledge that they lost any phone at all, is somehow a thief. That's ridiculous.
The only people who screwed up here are Apple by # 1, leaving their supposedly “secret” phone in some bar where anyone could examine it and see exactly what it was about, and # 2, failing to instruct their official switchboard to accept their phone back, in case the honest person that found it, called in and tried to return the phone.
No one is at fault here apart from Apple themselves.

109 posted on 04/26/2010 6:52:02 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe
I think this is all about Apple trying to generate hype for their phone..

I think this is all about Apple successfully kicking themselves in the nuts with steel-toed boots in a demented attempt to prove via jackbooted tantrum what a self-important cabal of snot-nosed elitists they are; justice for we, not for thee, and all.

Robespierre rides again.

May they all meet the same fate.

110 posted on 04/26/2010 7:04:23 PM PDT by HKMk23 (The Democrat Legacy: Hoax and Chains)
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To: 1rudeboy

BS... there are pleanty of ham sandwich judges. Judges who will sign any warrant because a cop says so.


111 posted on 04/26/2010 7:04:30 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: SmokingJoe

it would make a good samaritan think twice about helping anyone with a lost apple phone.


112 posted on 04/26/2010 7:06:10 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: 1rudeboy
The judge signing the search warrant may simply have said to himself, "reasonable cause to believe that a crime has been committed" and kicked the can down the road.

Maybe. Maybe he knows where his bread is buttered. Given their size, Apple's gravitational pull on the local constabulary should raise some questions given the fact that the goods in question were returned to Apple after they claimed ownership.

113 posted on 04/26/2010 7:15:09 PM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: Smogger

Apple is as evil as Google. I am happy their nextgen iPhone was revealed for all their competitors to see.


114 posted on 04/26/2010 8:01:11 PM PDT by montag813 (www.facebook.com/StandWithArizona)
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To: Smogger

Eliminate the 4th Amendement? Yeah, there’s an App for that!


115 posted on 04/26/2010 8:02:09 PM PDT by montag813 (www.facebook.com/StandWithArizona)
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To: SmokingJoe
New York has a law on the matter. It's not up to you to find the owner ~ instead, you MUST turn the money you found over to the proper authorities.

If it's not reclaimed in a certain period of time you might even get part of it for yourself.

You are arguing from your personal point of view and moral base. The law is more complex and continues to recognize that you do not have an absolute right of ownership to things you claim you just found around and about.

116 posted on 04/26/2010 8:07:49 PM PDT by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: 1rudeboy
The alien property rights system he's trying to create and defend is pretty typically CHICAGO.

That means he's not ignorant, he's "ignant"!

117 posted on 04/26/2010 8:11:26 PM PDT by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: muawiyah
It's not up to you to find the owner ~ instead, you MUST turn the money you found over to the proper authorities

What “proper authorities” are those, if someone finds a $5 note on the street, as has been happening for decades? In 99% of the cases, the finder just keeps the money without making any attempt to find the owner(which will be near impossible to do anyways in a place like Time Square). How do you even determine that that particular $5 note belonged to some particular person? All $5 notes are virtually the same.
Back on point, exactly when did it become “stealing”, when you find a phone that someone has left behind, try repeatedly to return the phone to the alleged owner of the phone(as determined by data on the phone), only for the owner to refuse to accept it, and deny they ever lost any phone?

118 posted on 04/26/2010 8:18:09 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe
$5 bills have unique serial numbers on them.

Referring to them as "notes" clearly marks you as a foreigner. Whatever they do "back home", that's not how it's done here ~

119 posted on 04/26/2010 8:36:37 PM PDT by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: muawiyah
$5 bills have unique serial numbers on them

How many $5 bills have you ever owned whereby you actually knew the serial number of each one?
I can't recall even one currency note I have owned that I ever knew the serial number of.

Referring to them as “notes” clearly marks you as a foreigner”

Referring to them as “notes” simply means I have lived in quite a few countries in my lifetime, including spending many years in the UK. I have from time to time made references to that in my posts on here when the thread is about countries I have lived in.

Whatever they do “back home”, that's not how it's done here ~”

No?
Is how “it's done here” entail person "A" foolishly leaving their phone in a bar, someone else (person "B") finding it, then person "A" (or his representative) refusing to accept the phone back when person "B" repeatedly tries to return the said phone, and person A" even denying that he lost the phone at all, only for person "A" to turn round a week later and accuse the the phone finder of being a thief?
The trouble with you idiotic Applebots is, you don't think for yourselves for even one minute. If Steve Jobs says jump into a lion's den with an hungry lion in it, you'd find some way to justify why such a suicidal act is good.

120 posted on 04/26/2010 9:06:33 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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