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To: Smokeyblue

More lies from the article:

A wide array of public officials from Hawaii—including its Republican governor—have attested that Mr. Obama was born in the state, and the Obama campaign released a copy of his Hawaiian birth certificate during the 2008 presidential campaign.

That hasn’t been enough to kill the false rumors about Mr. Obama’s provenance. In a New York Times/CBS News poll earlier this month, 20% of the respondents thought the president was born overseas and 23% said they didn’t know for sure.


2 posted on 04/24/2010 6:18:31 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: Smokeyblue

I can’t read the article, as I’m not a subscriber, but I hope this fellow has good attorneys.


3 posted on 04/24/2010 6:20:09 AM PDT by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: Smokeyblue
Obama campaign released a copy of his Hawaiian birth certificate during the 2008 presidential campaign.

The only thing that Obama released publicly was a COLB, which proves nothing.

A wide array of public officials from Hawaii—including its Republican governor—have attested that Mr. Obama was born in the state,

Well, then Constitution be hanged. Someone says they saw the document!

At this point, the Constitution has been trampled even if Obama is fully eligible because of the staunch refusal on the part of our government to verify that the Constitutional requirements are met.

The only intellectually honest answer to the question of whether or not Obama is eligible, is "I don't know"--because you can't know. No one can, unless and until the documentation is released.

7 posted on 04/24/2010 6:30:42 AM PDT by SeƱor Zorro ("The ability to speak does not make you intelligent"--Qui-Gon Jinn)
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Since you must be subscribed, would you be willing to post the below for me? I would have subscribed and then filed a grievance against them if they didn’t let me post, but the terms of agreement said that they charge you immediately for the whole year and it’s not refundable. Neither Fox nor any other “news” outlet will let the following information get out. If you could at least try for me I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks. Here it is:

The Hawaii Department of Health has confirmed that the Factcheck COLB is fraudulent, because

1) The HDOH made a statutory admission (and repeated it multiple times when asked about it) that Obama’s birth certificate has been amended. DOH administrative rules (which were illegally hidden from the public until Nov of 2009) say that all birth certificates (which includes the abbreviated certificate, or COLB) must note amendments. Since Factcheck doesn’t note the amendment we know it is a forgery. And

2) Janice Okubo has stated that all Oahu birth certificates have always been received by the state registrar and given a number by the state registrar on the same day - the “date filed”. The Factcheck COLB has a “date filed” 3 days before the Nordyke twins’ but a certificate number 2 later than theirs. In the past this has been explained by hospitals having pre-numbered certificates or by piles of BC’s sitting at different secretaries’ desks for 3 days awaiting processing. But Okubo has directly eliminated those explanations. Because the “date filed” and certificate number are incompatible we know that at least one or the other has been altered and the COLB is thus a forgery.

Hawaii Revised Statute 338-17 says that an amended birth certificate doesn’t qualify as prima facie evidence; it is mere legal hearsay - with the same probative value as the Kenyan birth certificates unless and until they are certified as authentic. DOH rules require an administrative or judicial person or body to view all supporting documents when an amended birth certificate is presented as evidence, because Hawaii doesn’t vouch for the accuracy of the claims.

The reason that Obama posted the forged COLB instead of the genuine one he has in his possession is because there are 2 items he needs to hide:

1) the certificate number of 151-2006-xxxxxx (which shows that he forged the certificate number AND that his BC was only completed in 2006); and

2) the note of the amendment, which means that the certificate is not prima facie evidence and the burden of proof thus falls on Obama to prove that the claims on the BC are accurate - rather than someone else to prove them false. That’s some serious doo-doo for him.

What poses a serious problem for him is that the amendment he made in 2006 appears to be to the medical portion of the birth certificate, which would only be necessary if a Hawaii doctor did not examine Obama within the first 30 days after the birth and complete the certificate. This amendment begs the question of where Obama was at birth if a Hawaii doctor couldn’t see him within 30 days.

Any legal proceeding would require Obama to show the genuine COLB, which would then require him to show the genuine original and all the supporting documents. Obama knows that if he has to do that, he’s toast. That’s why he is fighting the lawsuits so hard and why he will rescind military orders rather than allow a soldier to reach the discovery stage of a legal proceeding.

That’s why Lt Col Lakin’s stand is so vital - because he can’t simply be dismissed, and if he is found guilty in the military without being given a chance to defend himself via discovery, he can take it to federal court, with standing.

Documentation is at http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2010/01/11/red-flags-in-hawaii-2/


8 posted on 04/24/2010 6:37:56 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Smokeyblue

What’s the connection between wsj and fox???


31 posted on 04/24/2010 7:45:36 AM PDT by danamco (")
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To: Smokeyblue
A wide array of public officials from Hawaii—including its Republican governor—have attested that Mr. Obama was born in the state, and the Obama campaign released a copy of his Hawaiian birth certificate during the 2008 presidential campaign.

Immaterial...by his own admission his father was Kenyan and his mother was too young to pass on citizenship under the existing laws. He is INELIGIBLE!

35 posted on 04/24/2010 8:04:16 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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