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To: conservativegramma

To be crystal clear, “natural born citizen” would need to be defined in the constitution. Many, if not most, Americans would feel like anyone born in the US to a US citizen mother would be a “natural born citizen” absent some definition to the contrary in the constitution itself.

For the Supreme Court to say that because this fellow Vattel in his writings defined “natural born citizen” in a certain way, we are bound to follow that definition and overturn the popular vote would be to put the Supreme Court into the realm of partisan politics in a way that neither it nor the republic could stand.


106 posted on 04/23/2010 9:31:14 PM PDT by freethinker_for_freedom
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To: freethinker_for_freedom

What part of this thread aren’t you grasping???? The ‘RECORDS of the FEDERAL CONVENTION of 1787’ doesn’t even remotely ring a bell regarding the constitution???

Vattel defines “Natural Born Citizen”. Vattel is cited numerous times during this convention.

Hint: The Constitution was being written during this convention.

Our Republic is already in the realm of partisan politics by refusing to follow the constitution...we’re not only up in our necks in partisan politics we are losing our Republic and our freedom. They sure as hell better deal with this or they are committing treason along with everyone else in Congress.


110 posted on 04/23/2010 9:35:39 PM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: freethinker_for_freedom
To be crystal clear, “natural born citizen” would need to be defined in the constitution.
I wouldn't have believed it but you've actually managed to top your previous ignorance.
With your "free thinking" a whole dictionary would have to accompany the Constitution to give meaning to every word therein!
115 posted on 04/23/2010 9:38:40 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: freethinker_for_freedom
For the Supreme Court to say that because this fellow Vattel in his writings defined “natural born citizen” in a certain way, we are bound to follow that definition and overturn the popular vote would be to put the Supreme Court into the realm of partisan politics in a way that neither it nor the republic could stand.

The court got "into the realm of partisan politics" in the 2000 election when they stopped the vote counting in Florida, didn't they?

They knew then, that whichever way they decided, it was going to be unpopular, but they did their job and settled the question.

161 posted on 04/23/2010 10:31:39 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: freethinker_for_freedom

It has nothing to do with partisan politics. It has to do with this simple question:

Is the USA a nation of laws or not?

Everyone here would feel just the same if it was a Republican president with a foreign father, who was hiding every scrap of documentation of his citizenship history (and every other aspect of his life).

Exactly the same,

Partisan politics - no freaking way. It’s about the rule of law.


178 posted on 04/23/2010 10:47:28 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: freethinker_for_freedom; conservativegramma

How did you chose your tag-name and why???


235 posted on 04/24/2010 5:09:20 AM PDT by danamco (")
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To: freethinker_for_freedom
To be crystal clear, “natural born citizen” would need to be defined in the constitution.

The constitution didn't define the word "is" either but everyone, with the exception of BJ, is crystal clear on its definition.

253 posted on 04/24/2010 8:18:26 AM PDT by bgill (how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the POTUS)
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To: freethinker_for_freedom
To be crystal clear, “natural born citizen” would need to be defined in the constitution.

Anything "crystal clear" in there about an illegitimate child born to a British subject/Kenyan father, and an underage nonresident mother being eligible?

333 posted on 04/24/2010 5:54:18 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATS, nothing more than bald-haired hippies.)
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