Posted on 04/23/2010 11:58:03 AM PDT by tutstar
“the top U.S. health official said Thursday night that will not be permitted.”
This is where we start...federal arrogance of assumed power...they can disregard or make up federal powers in the USC and mandate what we can and can’t do.
And we’re supposed to take it.
11/2010
11/2012
Fine, give each state's citizens the right to accept "free" health care insurance and let them pay the taxes and fees associated with it. But, give me the same right to opt out of it and pay nothing!
Right. I don’t consider this ‘silliness.’ Not for those of us who care about the USC, the 10th Amendment, et al. It is forming the parameters of the coming battle royale for the Constitutional soul of our nation.
The measure is primarily aimed at part of the health-reform law that will eventually require people to buy health insurance or face financial penalties --- a concept known asthe "individual mandate.''"A Bill of Pains and Penalties"!
Which is as Unconstitutional as 'heck'. Legally it's identical to A Bill of Attainder which is Verboten per Article I, Section 9; Clause 3 of that Constitution thingy.
Definition: A Bill of Attainder is an act of the legislature declaring a person or group of persons guilty of some crime and punishing them without benefit of a trial. (Exactly what ObamaDeathCare entails)NOTE: In a Bill of Attainder the Death Penalty is an option. A Bill of Pains and Penalties involves Monetary Fines or Seizure of Property (for a Felony). And as I recall the IRS is very good at seizing Property and your Bank Accounts.
That is the crux of the problem, its still SOCIALIZED healthcare, for it to succeed ALL the people have to participate.
And the ones supporting Obamacare won’t accept those opting out, its of course part of Obamas plan to DIVIDE America.
Individual states MUST opt out completely, ho half way measure. It would actually make Obama very happy if indeed states were to allow citizens to opt out because then its like splitting a diamond by hitting it in the wrong spot, it will shatter instead.
“There shouldn’t even be a Secretary of Health and Human Services,nor an EPA,nor a Labor Department,nor a Department of Education,nor a long list of federal usurpation of state,local, and private authority”
AMEN to that
And by FORCING it on the people, you're FORCING it on the State, you stupid bitch!
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[The above was posted with the full knowledge that this will probably be my second pulled post in my entire time of FReepdom...but I can't help myself]
States Will Be Last Line of Defense
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_042210/content/01125114.guest.html
Theres going to be blood in the streets if the feds overide states rights.
The Third Reich (aka the current regime) says the Constitution can not be over ridden, etc.
As if this Fascist regime gives two cents of regard for the Constitution.
I have been telling my son - and mentioned here sometimes - that in the end the only way some states may be able to protect their citizens from onerous taxation due to debt, and onerous heavy-handed federal controls due to tyranny, is to secede from the Union
This statement by Sebelius only reinforces that view... the Democraps have been planning this overthrow of the Constitution for many years, and now they see their opportunity. Naturally, the media will give them all the support they can to accomplish this coup d'etat.
Thanks for the heads up on this one, EdReform.
The hell they can’t, what about the 14th Amendment?
What I’m curious about: with the number of states that have done (or are planning to do) the same thing, why did Sebelius pick Florida to single out?
“... this will probably be my second pulled post in my entire time of FReepdom...”
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Ma’am, you just ain’t tryin’ hard enough.
LOL! And here I thought we were supposed to avoid having posts pulled.
I guess I've just been doing it wrong. :-)
Selective interpretation of the Constitution by the left:
Interpret the Supremacy Clause as the supreme clause of the constitution, overriding all others.
Ignore Enumerated Powers.
Fabricate the Separation of Church and State Clause (non-existent)
Interpret General Welfare to mean Create a Nanny State and ignore the financial General Welfare.
Ignore the freedom and individual choice the Constitution was created to engender.
And that ends our lesson on Insidious Progressivism 101.
Class over.
“If a state were free to nullify federal laws within its borders, or, by logical extension, to secede from the union altogether, that would pretty much spell the end of federalism in favor of a loose, and not very durable, confederation of states. Is that really what we want?”
Yes.
I was talking to an insurance consultant a few days ago about ObamaCare. He said a national organization of underwriters has basically been asked by Congress to explain what’s in the bill they passed. It’s a hodgepodge of crap thrown together from various camps and no one really understands it. He said it’s full, for example, of sections that contradict each other. It’s an unadulterated mess.
MM (in TX)
I doubt that zero ever thought he would find this much resistance.
This is why he tried to ram through health care without any discussions in a weeks time when he first started his push.
Now that people have a chance to fight it before any coverage actually takes effect, it may be stomped away.
They never thought there would be this much resistance.
It should be a signal to congress and the senate that people are unhappy, but they apparently just don’t care.
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