Posted on 04/21/2010 1:52:34 PM PDT by K-oneTexas
I write this follow up in response to reader mail regarding my column DC Knows that Obama is Ineligible for Office. Even many conservative columnists and pundits seem confused on the issue of natural born citizen, even though the matter is really quite clear.
Only the people can decide…
But I submit to every American the idea that if Article II—Section I of the US Constitution is no longer worthy of protection and preservation, then nothing in that document matters anymore.
If we fail to uphold Article II—Section I of the US Constitution, then we have failed to uphold, protect, preserve or defend any part of the US Constitution or the American way of life.
If the US Constitution no longer stands, then the United States of America no longer stands.
Is there a more pressing issue on the table today?
(Excerpt) Read more at canadafreepress.com ...
In fact I don't know if all countries allow the mother to transfer citizenship. I don't know enough about the law, but it's possible Kenya doesn't even recognize him as an American citizen simply because his father is Kenyan and the mother was American. If Kenya doesn't allow the mother to transfer citizenship, then in their eye, he's Kenyan.
BM
I’ve probably had more heated discussions over that single issue than any other.
I am not an immigration lawyer so I talked with two of them.
John Sydney McCain was born in a public hospital in the city of Colon, Republic of Panama.
The United States leased the Panama Canal Zone from the Republic of Panama. The Canal Zone was NEVER a U.S. territory (unlike Guam and Puerto Rico which are territories).
There are statutes on the books dealing with births to U.S. citizens in Panama, and a child born to U.S. citizens in Panama is considered a citizen-by-statute.
Though the Senator is a citizen, this disqualifies McCain from serving as President, for he IS NOT a Natural Born Citizen. (To change the Article II requirement of the U.S.Constitution requires a Constitutional Amendment approved by Congress and approval by 60% of the States. A statement by Senators giving their dispensation doesn’t change the U.S.Constitution.)
As to citizens born in the territories, I am not sure. A birth in Guam or Puerto Rico means U.S. citizenship, but territories aren’t ‘States’. Puerto Rico has repeatedly rejected statehood in elections, yet they have status as citizens (I believe it may be citizenship-by-statute; I read that somewhere but now cannot find it.) I would find it hard to believe that someone from a territory that has repeatedly rejected statehood would be considered eligible to be President.
Way back in in the 1790s there was a statute(?) that children born overseas to U.S.citizens be considered Natural Born Citizens. It was repealed in 1797. So children born overseas on military bases are citizens but I suspect would not be considered natural born for the purpose of serving as President.
Some may say that isn’t fair, but remember there is no ‘right’ to be President. It is simply a qualification put in place by our Founders to prevent someone with split allegiences from making it into the White House.
That plus the Arizona Legislatures bill to provide it if he wants on the 2012 ballot.
Sounds like a trend each state should invest in. He will be forced!
Got a link to that follow-up?
The fact that his father was Kenyan/British/from Mars, does not matter to me so the BC is not an issue....NBC means Citizen Parents, both! NO DUAL CITIZENSHIP!!!! EVER!!!
Something just occurred to me. Since the father had a previous marriage, which means the marriage to Stanley Anne was not legal in this country, would that mean that the citizenship of the father would not be relevant? That Obama wouldn’t automatically get British Citizenship?
So many complicated issues here. But I hope the R’s take back both the house & senate & impeach as a first order of business!
I don’t think it would matter if his father is listed on his BC and is known. Besides he admits to dual citizenship.
Yes, but I don’t know how much they foresaw as much as they lived as subjects not free men. They saw Great Britain colonize other countries and make them subjects who could be indentured at any time for the Crown. That is one of the reasons why I don’t believe that they wanted citizenship by natural law. You could come and live and work in the US but you had to pledge allegiance to the US and no other nation. Mere presence in the US did not give you citizenship......they exempted themselves from the requirement........If it wasn’t a big deal why would they feel the need to do that?
And it applies to all candidates not just Obama!!!
As far as I know it is a requirement for the office of President of the US only.
Arnold is Governor of California and is a Naturalized Citizen (I think) and is not eligible to run for President as he was born in Austria. Though some have talked about amending the Constitution to change that requirement.
It is the one requirement reserved for President and Vice President.
Great article, the only thing JB screwed up this time was his clarification/description of the 14th Amendment. It had NOTHING to do with immigrants, immigration or naturalization but instead was to clarify who were the citizens by birth aka ‘subject to the jurisdiction’ as in NOT owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty which meant NOT being born to an father who was an immigrant not yet naturalized or to a father who was an alien resident temporary in the US regardless of they were diplomats or NOT.
“NO DUAL CITIZENSHIP!!!! EVER!!!”
I agree completely.
Obviously we can’t do a dam thing about it or it would have been done already. Courts keep throwing out the efforts to challenge his birth...
He is the Manchurian Candidate par excellence.
Agreed. McCain isn’t eligible either. While he’s closer to being a NBC, the fact that he was not born on US soil excludes him. Close only counts in horse shoes and hand grenades.
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I just thought of something. The GOP did everything they could to not win the election because they knew the economy was going to tank and after all the “it’s Bush’s fault” wanted to dump it into the RATS lap. Running an ineligible candidate might have been part of the plan that didn’t work out for them. Of course, running such a McDumbfart basically guaranteed a loss. The powers that be latched onto Sarah thinking that would be the nail in the coffin but we loved her despite all the bad press and baggage she brought along so they had to shut her up and make McLame even lamer. It wouldn’t surprise me a bit if the GOP planted much of her bad press themselves. The GOP was so scared that they gave McRino leg tingles over the usurper and told us we didn’t have to be afraid of him right when the voters started to wake up. The GOP was stuck with the opposition running an ineligible candidate so there was nothing they could do but to keep their mouths shut over the Kenyan’s ineligibility but paraded McCain’s around. With the Senate Resolution 511 stating McCain was eligible, if things got too close to a win, they could easily strike it down with the “born on US soil” and that would be the end of McCain. Notice the GOP NEVER made a resolution concerning Hussein so the vetting of McCain was nothing but a ruse.
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