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1 posted on 04/21/2010 5:40:54 AM PDT by SJackson
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Should note that he hasn't been sentenced to life, a sentence not typically given for a crime of this type, that's the prosecutors request.

2 posted on 04/21/2010 5:41:46 AM PDT by SJackson (Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel and it must remain undivided, Barack Hussein Obama)
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“As for the outcry from the hassidic community that Rubashkin is being treated unfairly and that his yarmulke and beard make for a prosecutorial bull’s-eye, I love America too much to believe any of it. “

Tell that to Yankel Rosenbaum, Bracha Estrin, and Anthony Graziosi.

“This is the fairest, most decent country on Earth. “

While true, unfortunately it’s not saying too much.


3 posted on 04/21/2010 5:46:40 AM PDT by avoth
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After an INS raid on the plant that found hundreds of illegal immigrants, the company was pushed to the brink of bankruptcy and Rubashkin, who had already been arrested for employing illegals, was subsequently found guilty of defrauding a bank and producing false invoices to keep the business going. There is no insinuation that he did any of this for personal profit or gain.

Oh, please. He broke a bunch of black-and-white laws covering finance and labor over the course of several years. Throw the goniff (yiddish for thief) in the slammer, where he belongs. He should have thought about his 10 kids before becoming a crook.

7 posted on 04/21/2010 5:51:04 AM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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yes. You cannot poison Jews with intent and violate their cultural and religious objectives.


8 posted on 04/21/2010 5:54:42 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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The American justice system is all about prosecutors getting headlines.


14 posted on 04/21/2010 6:10:59 AM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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They always leave out the fact that this company's major violations were years of health citations, some of which would necessitate a barf alert.

They were numerous and repeated. You would definitely not want to eat any product from there if you knew what they had been doing.

The illegal alien employees just brought the whole thing to a head and the fraud is what finally lit the fuse.

According to the Des Moines Register:

"According to documents recently obtained by the UFCW through Freedom of Information Act requests, over 250 Noncompliance Records (NRs) were issued to Agriprocessors by USDA’s Food Safety and Inspection Service (FSIS) between January 1, 2006 and January 24, 2007."

16 posted on 04/21/2010 6:11:39 AM PDT by capt. norm (Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.)
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We Jews are accustomed to run from scandal like the plague.

Who in their right mind wouldn't?..............OY!.........

17 posted on 04/21/2010 6:15:14 AM PDT by Red Badger (Education makes people easy to lead, difficult to drive; easy to govern, but impossible to enslave.)
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Life behind bars – the very words are ominous.

And murderers sentenced to "life" generally get out before the victims' families are finished grieving.

18 posted on 04/21/2010 6:25:13 AM PDT by JimRed (To water the Tree of Liberty is to excise a cancer before it kills us. TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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I have known jews from Europe, Asia, and the ME who came from places where the legal system was so corrupt and antiJewish that were conditioned to just ignore laws and rules and courts.

The ‘law’ became whatever you can get away with.

Unfortunately, some of them brought this attitude with them to America.


19 posted on 04/21/2010 6:25:37 AM PDT by 240B (he is doing everything he said he would'nt and not doing what he said he would)
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Rabbi Boteach is 100% correct. Heat was attracted to Agriprocessors, Rabbi Rubashkin’s company, because of the complaints of PETA and others of alleged cruelty to animals in the kosher butchering process. Later Agriprocessors was accused of employing hundreds of illegal aliens.

Ultimately, the entire legal case was based on the fact that Agriprocessors had a revolving line of credit; that each time Agriprocessors drew down on the line it had to certify that it was in compliance with the law; that the company allegedly was not in compliance with the law (primarily because of hiring illegal aliens and booking phoney accounts receivable); and that therefore this was a federal case of bank fraud because the bank’s parent company was insured by the FDIC.

Rubashkin was a senior officer of Agriprocessors acting in his corporate capacity. None of the acts was alleged to have been done by him outside of his capacity as an officer of Agriprocessors.

At the beginning of the trial Rubashkin successfully moved for the illegal alien matter to be tried separately, in a separate trial. Yet the government made that the crux of its entire case, alleging that Agriprocessors was breaking the law by hiring them, Rubashkin signed general “bring-down” certificates to its bank that that the company was not in violation of any laws, and that therefore he committed bank fraud.

Rubashkin was denied the opportunity to show that the bank was not harmed. The judge wrote in her order that proof of harm is not necessary to prove bank fraud.

Rubashkin was denied the opportunity to show that individuals in the bank were aware that Agriprocessors had fraudulently written up the receivables.

Rubashkin was denied the opportunity to show that he had not profited personally from any of Agriprocessors’ or his own actions.

The number of counts for which he was convicted rose exponentially as the prosecutors charged him multiple times for offenses stemming out of the same actions: defrauding the bank; defrauding the bank through use of the wires (because he faxed his certificates); defrauding the bank through use of the mails (because he sent them by courier); defrauding the bank because he said that the company was not in violation of the law although it was in violation of the immigration laws; defrauding the bank because he said that the company was not in violation of the law although it was in violation of a law requiring payment for cattle by the close of the next business day after receipt of the cows (during a three-month period at the end he was late with some payments, and there is no allegation in the order that these payments were never made).

While some of this was properly excluded from the trial over his guilt, I think it is highly relevant to the question of his sentence.

I believe that Agriprocessors was guilty. Agriprocessors was ruined, and liquidated in bankruptcy. If Rabbi Rubashkin knew about illegal immigrants working at the company and if he deliberately falsified compliance certificates to the bank then the bank should sue him personally (and perhaps the government should join the bank derivatively). But there is no justification in the world to sentence him to a life sentence in a federal penitentiary based on the conviction that he received in this case.

Since sentencing is to take place April 28, 2010, time is of the essence in expressing concern about the abuse of the justice system in this case.


22 posted on 04/21/2010 6:44:01 AM PDT by Piranha (Obama won like Bernie Madoff attracted investors: by lying about his values, policy and plans.)
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There has been a book written about the slaughterhouse problems in Postville...It's a few years old now so it may not cover the most recent twists and turns in this case, but the 2001 Bloom book might still be worth a look for anyone interested in the background of this bizarre case.
29 posted on 04/21/2010 6:53:01 AM PDT by kaylar (It's MARTIAL law. Not marshal(l) or marital! This has been a spelling PSA. PS Secede not succeed)
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This article is a tissue of lies as are many of the comments on this thread. There is nothing charitable about Rubashkin or his company. The man illegally robbed and abused those outside of his tribe for the material benefit of himself and others within his tribe. All the rest is obfuscation.


43 posted on 04/21/2010 7:17:27 AM PDT by rogue yam
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Life for this crime is exceedingly excessive.


55 posted on 04/21/2010 7:48:49 AM PDT by publana (Time to go Galt.)
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Lemme get this straight: A life sentence for fraud to a small business owner, while the systematic fraud of big business goes overlooked?

A shame.


72 posted on 04/22/2010 5:48:22 AM PDT by Jormungandr
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12_20_17_rubashkin

"Free, free, Trump set Rubashkin free!" (With apologies to the Police.)

76 posted on 12/20/2017 7:54:00 PM PST by Bodleian_Girl
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