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Sarah Palin's 'Christian Nation' Remarks Spark Debate
Wash Post ^ | 4/20/10 | Ted Davis

Posted on 04/20/2010 5:32:20 PM PDT by pissant

Is America a Christian nation?

Sarah Palin said on Friday that it's "mind-boggling" to suggest otherwise.

But two groups dedicated to the separation of church and state are now speaking out against her, arguing that she is misreading the founders' intent.

"It's incredibly hypocritical that Sarah Palin, who disapproves of government involvement in just about anything, now suddenly wants the government to help people be religious," Barry Lynn, the executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, told ABC News.

"It is wildly inconsistent with her views on limited government to get the government involved in matters of faith."

Lynn was reacting to remarks Palin gave last Friday in Louisville, Ky., one day after a federal judge in Wisconsin ruled that the National Day of Prayer, created in 1952 by Congress, violated the First Amendment.

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KEYWORDS: americanhistory; christianheritage; christiannation; founders; godlesspinkos; obama; palin; palinversuscommies; sarahpalin
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To: pissant

Must be a college graduate at least, confusing nation and govt like that!


21 posted on 04/20/2010 5:51:07 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (STOP the Tyrananny State.)
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To: HarleyD; All

sidenote: do you know an alternative site to snopes?


22 posted on 04/20/2010 5:52:53 PM PDT by presently no screen name ( Repeal ZeroCare!)
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To: pissant
America is a Christian nation alright. Based on God and LIMITED Government.

Go Sarah!!!!!

23 posted on 04/20/2010 5:54:01 PM PDT by BornToBeAmerican (If you think education is expensive try ignorance.)
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To: pissant
America is a Christian nation alright. Based on God and LIMITED Government.

Go Sarah!!!!!

24 posted on 04/20/2010 5:54:02 PM PDT by BornToBeAmerican (If you think education is expensive try ignorance.)
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To: pissant
As the resident atheist, it's funny to me when atheists get crazy over this topic. (Hint: Next time one of them uses the "separation of church and state" line, ask them if it's in the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution--for those who don't know, that's a trick question).) They (and frankly some conservatives) don't seem to grasp that the first ammendment as interpreted by the SCOTUS means that government should not prefer one religion to another, or religion to nonreligious practice.

...and that has NOTHING to do with the national identity as a Christian nation. When the percentage is, what, 80% Christian?

I mean, what idiot would say we do not identify ourselves as a Christian nation?

Oh...THAT idiot.

25 posted on 04/20/2010 5:55:04 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Conservative Bostonian, atheist pro-lifer, outnumbered by the clueless)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

The only basis for equality in our democracy is the biblical belief that man has value because he is created in the image of God and is loved by Him, each and every one.

Absent that, we have no equality. (We certainly didn’t evolve equally.) We are not equally bright, good looking, physically healthy, etc. Nor are we all of the same utilitarian value to our fellows.

Absent the biblical belief, we might as well be social darwinists (nazis) with a survival of the fittest philosophy; or breed citizens of one ancestry (Aryan or otherwise); or believe in a caste system (with 2000 different levels); or believe that men ought to be servants to animals (that one would really be popular these days).


26 posted on 04/20/2010 5:57:53 PM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: pissant
"It is wildly inconsistent with her views on limited government to get the government involved in matters...

Mr Lynn I believe you are missing the point although apparently that is not surprising. The point is that there can be less authoritarian government if there is more Christianity.

It's kind of like the Soviet Union outlawing Christianity, or a man cannot serve two masters. Less religion, more authoritarian government; more religion, less authoritarian government.

Get it?

27 posted on 04/20/2010 5:59:56 PM PDT by jnsun (The Left: the need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer.)
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To: presently no screen name

Wish I did. Snopes tends to be liberally influenced (what else).


28 posted on 04/20/2010 6:01:03 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: presently no screen name; Jo Nuvark
sidenote: do you know an alternative site to snopes?
FReeper Jo Nuvark posted a nice list of alternatives to snopes on THIS thread:
Is Snopes Liberal?

29 posted on 04/20/2010 6:04:00 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: HarleyD

ping to my post #29


30 posted on 04/20/2010 6:04:30 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: RonDog

Thank you!


31 posted on 04/20/2010 6:06:45 PM PDT by presently no screen name ( Repeal ZeroCare!)
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To: Argus
Mere neutrality in matters of religion from this government would be a relief.

Instead, the Dem/Communists are actively engaged in persecuting Judeo-Christian belief while embracing Islam and secular paganism... - Argus

Bingo!

Ann Coulter recently summarized this same observation, in her comments about retiring Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens' position on this subject:

He has long found any religious practice not crushed by the government to be an "establishment of religion." - Ann Coulter

32 posted on 04/20/2010 6:12:50 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: RonDog

A real alternative to snopes has to replace it on everything, not just on the political issues. Otherwise people will still go to snopes to see if that email virus alert is real or not.


33 posted on 04/20/2010 6:13:21 PM PDT by ari-freedom
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To: presently no screen name

:o)


34 posted on 04/20/2010 6:13:58 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: pissant

Yeah I’m going to listen to some atheist asshole try to tell me what Christianity and conservatism are and how they don’t mesh.


35 posted on 04/20/2010 6:17:48 PM PDT by Artemis Webb (Any dissent means you are a troll.)
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To: SnakeDoctor

“It must really bother Obama that he’s in the White House ... and she controls the debate. Haha.”

That’s what happens when you think you can win debates with lines such as:
“I won”
“the time for debate is over”
“Let me be clear...”
“the tea partiers should thank me for cutting tax cuts...”

Liberals don’t know how to intellectually defend their positions so all they can do is ram everything through and compare us to McVeigh.


36 posted on 04/20/2010 6:20:06 PM PDT by ari-freedom
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To: SnakeDoctor

“It must really bother Obama that he’s in the White House ... and she controls the debate. Haha.

SnakeDoc”

You nailed it SnakeDoc!


37 posted on 04/20/2010 6:23:41 PM PDT by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: pissant

“It is wildly inconsistent with her views on limited government to get the government involved in matters of faith.”

No it’s not. A faith based government would have the govt out of welfare in order for religious charities to fill in the void. All that money could be going for churches and Catholic schools instead of taxpayer funded bureaucracies and public schools.
The secular govt needs a welfare state because nobody else would help the poor in their world without religion.


38 posted on 04/20/2010 6:25:50 PM PDT by ari-freedom
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To: pissant

So two groups filled with God-hating Azz holes dont agree with Palin that America is a Christian nation.

BFD.


39 posted on 04/20/2010 6:31:10 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Anti-Utopian
I must disagree. When one tallies the usury, sexual immorality, drunkenness, child abortion and neglect, divorce, covetousness, fraud, waste, blasphemy, idolatry, and various other sins sanctified by the majority of population and government, it becomes pretty obvious it is indeed not a Christian nation.

I must agree with your disagree. And even Sarah Palin is pro artificial birth control, which is anything but Christian. See Humanae Vitae.
40 posted on 04/20/2010 6:32:45 PM PDT by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa.)
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