Posted on 04/20/2010 5:32:20 PM PDT by pissant
Is America a Christian nation?
Sarah Palin said on Friday that it's "mind-boggling" to suggest otherwise.
But two groups dedicated to the separation of church and state are now speaking out against her, arguing that she is misreading the founders' intent.
"It's incredibly hypocritical that Sarah Palin, who disapproves of government involvement in just about anything, now suddenly wants the government to help people be religious," Barry Lynn, the executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, told ABC News.
"It is wildly inconsistent with her views on limited government to get the government involved in matters of faith."
Lynn was reacting to remarks Palin gave last Friday in Louisville, Ky., one day after a federal judge in Wisconsin ruled that the National Day of Prayer, created in 1952 by Congress, violated the First Amendment.
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No - but you are lacking knowledge - you see one thing and run with it. I’m not your teacher, the HS is and He teaches the same Truth to all. You are too man-made indoctrinated to grasp it.
Saying someone is killing is not smearing them? How clueless can you be and still breathe?
Sarah Palin’s viewpoint (stance) is not 100% pro-Life. You can read whatever you like into that. But don’t take my words out of context. I actually like Sarah Palin, quite a bit.
It doesn’t matter who you like or not. You are taking your man made beliefs and applying them to those who only follow God’s Word - the way it should be.
I don’t expect YOU to ‘get it’ - just giving you some info - you are accountable by saying - in any fashion - Sarah is killing. False witness!
At least now I did my job - you were told. However, you still feel the need to rant on about what you think - ‘religious’ mindset - is very unpleasing to God. Again, remember what Jesus said to the religious crowd. HINT: THEY WERE WRONG!!! Keep casting your stones, chump!
I’m trying to find the book.
It was written by Federer, about the religious statements and writings of the founders. All my books have been boxed up.
Where’s the personal attack? Show me! It’s YOU would is attacking and casting stones. More false witness.
You don’t have to respond to me. I did say earlier you won’t be able to grasp it. Look at your posts and see what you are doing.
I’m done. Enjoy your evening.
Jefferson’s letter and the FBI’s restoration work are among the items in an exhibit at the Library of Congress called, "Religion and the Founding of the American Republic." The exhibit also notes that Jefferson began to attend worship services held at the House of Representatives two days after writing the letter, and that he permitted regular worship services to be held there, a practice that continued until after the Civil War, with preachers from every Protestant denomination appearing there. The Library of Congress exhibit records that
As early as January 1806 a female evangelist, Dorothy Ripley, delivered a camp meeting-style exhortation in the House to Jefferson, Vice President Aaron Burr, and a "crowded audience."...In attending church services on public property, Jefferson and Madison consciously and deliberately were offering symbolic support to religion as a prop for republican government. [19][20]
I am a non-believer, and don't have too much of a problem with what SP said here. Nevertheless, those who think we live in a nation of good churchgoing brothers in Christ are deluding themselves. America's mass religion is mass culture and its church is the television, sorry to say.
Yes, the Danbury letter really has little to do with the first ammendment other that Jefferson’s off the cuff reference to it in the letter. Jefferson was in France when the ammendment was drafted, and for many years thereafter, and he had no part in the debate.
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you’re speaking from a former Catholic perspective of whom some I know are lapsed or just going through the motions...they were raised Catholic but their faith has faded ...I’m not sure why...it happens in Southern Baptist some but to a much less degree...fear maybe or cultural pressure or just a different belief system I don’t know
in the South most folks still believe seriously (maybe not so much those under 30 but they will come around due to their raising)
a majority go to church too
you don’t have to go to church to believe in God-Christ...I don’t much....I do it for my kid’s sake....it’s never been an end all for me like some but I do believe
I am a perfect example of how God works in how my life unfolds and how I have suffered my own transgressions and my own redemption. Anyone really knows my story will attest to that.
I’m not being critical I like you but you’re resorting to the perspective skepticals often do which is that one must be very devout nor pious to be true. That is simply not how it works.
God listens to sinners just the same...maybe more.
poll after poll show 75-85% Christian...and of the other 15-25% only 1/3 of those claim another religion...meaning...5% of population claims to be another religion besides Christian so it sounds to me like the lapsed Christians are already counted in the “no-religion” 10-20%
meaning 75-85% believing Christians...which is easy to recognize down here or say in latino areas like Miami
You are very correct in that the level of religious observance and the influence of Christianity remain heaviest in the south (among both blacks and whites), weakest in New England and the west (outside of the Mormon enclaves and places like Colorado Springs), with the upper Midwest being somewhere in between (although too many old school Lutherans in Minnesota and Wisconsin vote DFL/Democrat, despite being regular attendees).
The secularization of the heavily Catholic regions of the US (Mid-Atlantic, lower and coastal New England, and, to a lesser extent, the rust belt) and the decline in influence of the Church in those areas (despite what the K of C/Kool Aid Catholics on this site will tell you) is a phenomenon that deserves further study. The "Quiet Revolution" did not just occur in Quebec.
Being a Christian is about truly believing in your heart that Christ was the son of God sent here to absolve us if we accept that...how he suffered as a man by choice to prove that.
Pious life and good works are secondary...not to say one can believe that and be Charlie Manson too...though he could be saved I guess...his judgement could still be served here and his redemption found in the afterlife.
I am not pious as you know but I do believe, do not think we were some cosmic accidental ectoplasmic ricochet and I also fear the wrath too...that is probably the southern thing which is why we kill good down here those who have it coming....we weren’t not into relative equating much...at least my generation isn’t
convoluted i guess
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