No, that's not what I said. I said that if Koresh had been Muslim, on a Muslim compound the people who are defending him today, wouldn't be defending him. I'm sure that there would be scores of people on the kooky left that would have embraced all the conspiracy theories, just like they did on 9/11.
What I said was true, and continues to be true. There are search warrants issued in the WOT every day that are served on all kinds of Muslims, virtually without incident. Many of these warrants have been for locations that were Mosques. If you can show me a thread from FR that complains about the service of these search warrants on Mosques and Muslims, please link to it as I'd love to read the comments. I won't hold my breath.
Moreover, if a Muslim Imam was hold up in a fortified bunker, surrounding with children and armed to the teeth, I'm not sure (absent what happened in Waco) anyone would be too concerned with the feds making a forceful entry to serve that warrant.
Your original claim:
“If David Koresh’s name was Abdul Hussein, and it was a muzzie compound rather than some faux-Christian sect, people would be showing no mercy for those killed in the “raid”.
Koresh was mad-man, who probably institutionally molested young girls, and kept women against their will. The world is better off without him, it’s just too bad the federal government was so fiercely incompetent that they allowed some 30 children to be killed in the process.”
I think you are largely correct if the “people” is limited to FR. It is still not completely strong as an argument because there is a strong libertarian streak here [not mine] that rejects patriot act like intrusions in a rather principaled manner.
I am still more interested in what you may view as a tangent. Such raids would never take place with muslims. Neither Bush Federal Agencies or Obama federal agencies would allow a warrant to be prosecuted in such a brash manner and they certainly would not escalate with the military style attack on the compound. I think the raids you allege are far more discrete. It may be knowledge learned since Koresh but I really think it is a federal bias that Christians are a majoritarian threat whereas Muslims are a marginalized victim class that should be handled more carefully.
Its also difficult to differentiate how children might die in your scenario. It is the view of radicals such as Al Qaeda that the deliberate killing of children is part of a representational strategy against superior power. Children are used throughout the world in places such as Gaza and Lebanon and this changes how any audience should interpret the events. Its hard to fathom how Koresh or any similar Christian militant group would do that. Its possible but not something with the same clear track record.
I see your point but don’t think it is completely accurate.
Which just underscores how far beyond the pale the ATF and FBI went at Waco. Bogus warrant, dozens of violations of Posse Comitatus, Congressional cover up...
are you bill clinton trolling this board? cuz you sure in the heck sound like it...just signed up, and defending one of the worst political hacks to ever be in the white house....troll i say, troll