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To: edge919
Which can be reported by anybody to the local registrar, not just a hospital.

So? How else are babies born outside of hospitals supposed to get birth certificates?

This says nothing about whether the child was born in or outside of Hawaii.

Sure it does, in so far as the person reporting the birth would have to have committed fraud in order to get a foriegn birth registered. There was no provision under Hawaiian law at the time for the registration of births outside the state.

That is why any timely birth registration accurate unless it can be proven that fraud took place.

Do you have any proof that Obama's birth was fraudulantly registered?

Nonsense. You haven't disproven that a foreign birth can be registered within a week's time frame.

Perhaps it could be. My point is that such an act would involve felony fraud and possibly pergury.

More nonsense. The motive was to ensure that the child would be a U.S. citizen.We already know SAD was too young to pass on U.S. citizenship to her child if born abroad.

It is you who are spouting nonsense. While it is true SAD was too young to automatically pass her citizenship on to her son, as the child of a US citizen, he was eligible for naturalized citizenship. If he was born, all she would have to do get him naturalized would be to fill out an application at the nearest consulate and provide proof of her own citizenship and maternity. See my profile for the relevant references to the immigration laws in effect at the time.

Why commmit a felony to secure his citizenship, when it could all be done perfectly legally?

Never mind the fact that there isn't a shred of evidence that such a fraud took place, or the she ever set foot in Kenya, let alone gave birth there.

179 posted on 04/20/2010 10:50:50 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity
So? How else are babies born outside of hospitals supposed to get birth certificates?

Let's ask Obama. He should know.

Sure it does, in so far as the person reporting the birth would have to have committed fraud in order to get a foriegn birth registered. There was no provision under Hawaiian law at the time for the registration of births outside the state.

Sorry but the 1961 natality reports said there 366 births out-of-state to Hawaiians and part-Hawaiians. These statistics were reported by the people who give birth certificates.

Do you have any proof that Obama's birth was fraudulantly registered?

You mean like listing an address where the parents didn't reside??

Perhaps it could be. My point is that such an act would involve felony fraud and possibly pergury.

Which makes it all the more imperative that we have full disclosure.

It is you who are spouting nonsense. While it is true SAD was too young to automatically pass her citizenship on to her son, as the child of a US citizen, he was eligible for naturalized citizenship. If he was born, all she would have to do get him naturalized would be to fill out an application at the nearest consulate and provide proof of her own citizenship and maternity.

Perhaps if she was aware of the procedures and was near a consulate. It would have been a lot easier to contact Granny and let her file paperwork with the Hawaii registrar.

Why commmit a felony to secure his citizenship, when it could all be done perfectly legally?

I can think of several reasons: Easier to register birth in Hawaii, desire to avoid telling people her child was born in Kenya, unaware of naturalization laws, don't think they'll be caught.

Never mind the fact that there isn't a shred of evidence that such a fraud took place, or the she ever set foot in Kenya, let alone gave birth there.

Better tell that to Michelle "Kenya is my husband's home country" Obama. Right now we have plenty of evidence of fraud: false certificate number, mismatching COLBs, unconfirmed COLB, the DOH violating its own laws to avoid disclosing legal information, etc.

182 posted on 04/20/2010 11:11:02 PM PDT by edge919
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