[dayglored]

> Really you didn’t hear about OSX being the first one hacked at the latest round of a hacking contest? I could have sworn we had a few threads about that and you participated in it. And let’s not forget the iPhone exploits.

Nobody with an ounce of computer security experience pays the least attention to those hacking "contests". They're just ad campaigns for the tech journals who sponsor them, and they set them up so that they make headlines to draw hits. Don't be so naive, you can't be that ignorant of how they work.

It's news when an Apple machine gets compromised first, and they know it. (Who would bother to read their pages, with a headline, "Windows falls first in hacking contest!"??? YAWN.)

So they set them up so that the long-practiced, completely-scripted, well-rehearsed exploits for the Apple products get done first. Well, duh -- they want to be able to write that headline with "APPLE" in it.

Besides, who gives a damn about such exploits unless they turn into REAL viruses??? How many of the Apple exploits have turned into real Mac viruses in the wild?

Ummm, none.

You can do better than that answer. Please try harder.

[for-q-clinton]

Wow so 0-day exploits don’t count now. Very interesting.

Ok, so now apple zealots are saying 0-day exploits don’t count. Well I guess we can erase half of Windows vulnerabilities.