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Obama heckled by 'don't ask don't tell' opponents
Associated Press ^ | April 19, 2010

Posted on 04/19/2010 7:00:29 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Opponents of the 'don't ask don't tell' policy on gays in the military interrupted President Barack Obama with heckling at a Los Angeles fundraiser for Sen. Barbara Boxer.

The protesters shouted to ask Obama what he is going to do about the policy, which prohibits gays from serving openly in the military.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bhodod; dontaskdonttell; heckler; homosexualagenda; moralabsolutes
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1 posted on 04/19/2010 7:00:29 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

You know you really suck as a president when your own loving subjects start heckling you.


2 posted on 04/19/2010 7:06:25 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dude! Where's my Constitution!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

nobama is the “black-hole” sucking-level president.


3 posted on 04/19/2010 7:15:29 PM PDT by hal ogen ($10 (I think) ajmo0unts through the internet from all over the world.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“Somebody faint?, back up, give him or her some room, we need some water”


4 posted on 04/19/2010 7:24:04 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

On the subject of “don’t ask, don’t tell”, I sent the following letter to U.S. Naval Institute Proceedings.

Regarding homosexuality, Lieutenant Whipps and LtCdr Craven III rely for foundational credibility on the 1973 decision by the American Psychological Association (APA) to remove homosexuality from its Diagnostic and Statistical Manual (DSM). Removal responded to a two year campaign Newsweek described as ongoing disruptive, chaotic attacks on psychiatrists and physiologists. Yet at this annual meeting and throughout this period of disruptive attacks, no papers were presented refuting any research previously done. Eventually a third of APA’s 17,000 plus membership voted for removal. The under-voting and public attacks support the understanding that the decision came through intimidation, and not as a result of scientific reasoning. Now rather than undergoing the mental stress and discipline of research, an interest group could publicly market their claim and tailor the DSM to fit their agenda.

After this mercurial, but unsubstantiated, decision a task force was established to ensure perpetual sanctity for this APA action. No papers would again arise to confirm the extensive prior research substantiating 7 of 10 homosexuals could walk away from the lifestyle forever. This new task force would set standards for peer review of articles to ensure appropriate flexibility in design definitions, outcomes, and analytical models. Acceptable pre-ordained theses would compile selected human data points, using selected questions and behaviors, and arrive at pre-approved incites.

Psychology and Psychiatry have always had a tenuous hold on claims they were sciences with the standing of Chemistry and Physics. On the scale of intellectual rigor, their research more often resembles oral history, and seldom, if ever, approaches the determinism found in a Chemistry laboratory.

The developments in statistics should have enabled them to a least determine there is a marginal or significant propensity for a particular disorder. Careful studies could have identified and graded methods of treatment. Given persistence in searching for correct methods of analysis, even accumulated episodic events could be sifted for transformation into valid information. Research would have proceeded more slowly and conclusions would have been less intuitive, but more stable. The disciplines would more often have adhered to the medical principle of “first of all, do no harm”. Responsible research should also acknowledge those pesky humans, who in spite of their genetics and upbringing, decide to live positive lives without APA professional help.

Instead, Psychology and Psychiatry have chosen to abandon all pretense of scientific rigor in exchange for popular societal and political acclaim. The barriers erected to meaningful research about homosexuality remind me of Genesis 3:23-24. In these verses the Lord God banished humanity from the Garden of Eden and placed an angel in the Garden to keep humanity away forever. By their actions, Psychology and Psychiatry appear content within their own Garden of Eden. They seem to consider the accoutrements of a religion to be more attractive than those of a science.

The current debate languishes for the inability of these two disciplines to make a meaningful contribution. They should lead a debate, which would examine whether any mental disorders are acceptable for people seeking or retaining military service. Military service should always be the ultimate meritocracy to compete successfully against enemies unconcerned with social engineering.


5 posted on 04/19/2010 7:25:28 PM PDT by Retain Mike
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Awkward! Don’t heckle-don’t tell!


6 posted on 04/19/2010 7:28:41 PM PDT by Voter62vb
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Man, I would have taken the offer and run down and locked into the TelePrompter Pod!


7 posted on 04/19/2010 7:30:48 PM PDT by Voter62vb
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8 posted on 04/19/2010 7:45:13 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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9 posted on 04/19/2010 7:48:05 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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10 posted on 04/19/2010 7:49:49 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0cpT4Snc0O8nw/610x.jpg

An anti-war protestor gestures as the motorcade of US President Barack Obama’s motorcade passes on the way to a fundraiser reception for California Senator Barbara Boxer and the Democratic National Party, in Los Angeles on April 19, 2010.


11 posted on 04/19/2010 7:52:12 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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12 posted on 04/19/2010 7:54:46 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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13 posted on 04/19/2010 7:55:55 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Just before he asked if the heckler wanted to come up, he had the most evil look on his face.
scary man.


14 posted on 04/19/2010 7:58:15 PM PDT by sweetiepiezer (Sharon Angle has the Right Angle)
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To: Voter62vb

‘Man, I would have taken the offer and run down .....’

LOL. wish someone would have taken up the offer from Mr. Obama...told my husband I wish he’d make that offer to a Freeper audience.....then we’d see a great debate!!


15 posted on 04/19/2010 7:58:38 PM PDT by 4integrity
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To: Free ThinkerNY
and 0bama takes another one in the...........HA ha!!!
16 posted on 04/19/2010 8:03:34 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: TornadoAlley3
Great pic! I just stole that one ... ;o)
17 posted on 04/19/2010 8:13:54 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Retain Mike

Incredible letter! Thanks for sharing.


18 posted on 04/19/2010 8:17:20 PM PDT by gidget7 ("When a man assumes a public trust, he should consider himself as public property." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

My local radio station (ABC affiliate) that carries Mark Levin’s rebroadcast played some of that heckling - BRUTAL! It was relentless, and at one point Barry said “Barbara and I are fighting to END ‘Don’t ask, don’t tell’, so I don’t know what you’re all so upset about!” or something like that. Actually, since they have the majority, I don’t know who they’d be fighting.


19 posted on 04/19/2010 8:17:41 PM PDT by FrdmLvr ( 0bama: Our first AINO president)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Finally actual footage of the “Tea Baggers” disrespecting the President.


20 posted on 04/19/2010 8:26:42 PM PDT by TigerBait
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