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To: Avoiding_Sulla

“Statism” - well, yes.

Historically, it is always the empire-engorged State that finally kills and devours its host human society.

In the West’s 21st Century case, the rationale and justification of this engorgement is the belief that what is good for society as a whole can be determined and known by social scientists; and once that good is known then policies must be implemented to improve our society. That doctrine is ethical socialism - founding morality on what is believed to be good for society as a whole. This false belief is at the root of why such projects always result in mass death.

I do not think that such a belief is founded in either reality or reason, whereas the historical role of the state has often been humane and just, when it there is no attempt to morally or otherwise improve the population.

Pre-WWI modern states were about the appropriate size, consuming less than 10% of their society’s production.


40 posted on 04/19/2010 1:19:20 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism - "Who-whom?")
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To: headsonpikes
That doctrine is ethical socialism - founding morality on what is believed to be good for society as a whole. This false belief is at the root of why such projects always result in mass death.

It would be helpful, at least to me, if you would explain the cause and effect of your two sentences.

As I think you know, I believe our Statists think they are behaving morally, no matter how deadly they are, they just have standards different from people who are less noble than they.

41 posted on 04/19/2010 9:37:59 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (Yesterday's Left = today's status quo. Thus "CONSERVATIVE": a conflicted label for battling tyranny.)
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