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AC-130J Shifts To Missiles
Strategy Page ^ | 4/15/2010 | Strategy Page

Posted on 04/17/2010 10:22:44 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld

The U.S. Air Force is buying 16 C-130J transports, for $100 million each, for conversion into AC-130J gunships. Equipping the new gunships will nearly double the price, and the first one won't arrive for seven years. These will replace older AC-130H gunships. The air force will keep 17 more recent (1990s) AC-130Us. The AC-130U has an additional 25mm autocannon, and has the capability to track more than one target at a time. The AC-130H gunship (nicknamed Spooky) is a 69 ton, four engine aircraft armed with two 20mm machine-guns, a 40mm autocannon and a 105mm howitzer. While the aircraft can stay in the air for six hours (or more, if it refuels in the air), what really makes a difference is how well the weapons operate. Flying low (often under 10,000 feet) and at night, the gunship relies on night vision devices and well trained gunners to take out targets that are giving the troops on the ground a hard time. Four decades of continuous improvements have made the gunships increasingly lethal.

The 79 ton C-130J has a top speed of 644 kilometers, 40 percent more range than the C130H, and can carry 25 percent more cargo. The C-130J transport proved to be more than just another model in the fifty year old C-130 design. Mainly because it's cheaper and easier to use. Like most new commercial transports, the C-130 emphasizes saving money. The new engines generate 29 percent more thrust while using 15 percent less fuel. Increased automation reduced crew size from four to three. The C-130J is more reliable and easier to maintain

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ac130j; aerospace; c130j; gunships; southkorea; usaf

1 posted on 04/17/2010 10:22:45 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: sonofstrangelove

My first ride on a C-130 was from Okinawa to Da Nang on December 23rd 1966.

Who would have thought that this venerable aircraft would still be coming off the production line in 2010 and beyond?

Wow.


2 posted on 04/17/2010 10:30:30 PM PDT by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: Halgr

My first ride on a C-130 was in 1990.


3 posted on 04/17/2010 10:31:00 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: Halgr

Thanks for your service Halgr! I bet there’s a story or two that came out of that trip. :) Semper Fi!


4 posted on 04/17/2010 10:43:13 PM PDT by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: MarineBrat

Yes Viet Nam was an eyeopener and its where I grew up.


5 posted on 04/17/2010 10:44:38 PM PDT by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: sonofstrangelove

The solid black ones were special, too. We used to fly them to CCK for a reward trip. Blackbird was the name. Also came in 123’s.


6 posted on 04/17/2010 10:45:40 PM PDT by Lumper20
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To: Halgr
Yes Viet Nam was an eyeopener and its where I grew up.

A lot of America's best grew up there, and many gave up their chance to grow up. Glad you're here! Thanks again for your service!!!


7 posted on 04/17/2010 11:15:25 PM PDT by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: sonofstrangelove
C-130 landing on the Forrestal.

21 landings, 29 touch and go's

8 posted on 04/17/2010 11:26:17 PM PDT by Hillbillary (I know how to deal with Communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Halgr
My first ride on a C-130 was from Okinawa to Da Nang on December 23rd 1966.

Grand Forks AFB, 1999. Civil Air Patrol brat. Also got to watch from behind the boom operator on a KC-135 while they refueled a B-1 in flight. It was Teh Kewl.

9 posted on 04/17/2010 11:34:38 PM PDT by powdered_whig
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To: Hillbillary

And every landing was UN-arrested(as in no tailhook!!!) which is simply beyond amazing!


10 posted on 04/17/2010 11:47:41 PM PDT by snuffy smiff (imagine if the GOP grew a brain-and threw all RINOs OUT! But that would also require a spine *sigh*)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Ping


11 posted on 04/17/2010 11:49:06 PM PDT by steel_resolve
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To: powdered_whig

I love threads like this where all the old vets show up.......woohoo


12 posted on 04/18/2010 12:20:50 AM PDT by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: sonofstrangelove
Because of their vulnerability to ground fire, the AC-130s only operate at night. The last time an AC-130 was lost was at Khafji, Saudi Arabia, during the 1991 Persian Gulf War. The aircraft was leaving the combat zone at sunrise, and was visible to Iraqi gunners in the area.

How long until night vision goggles become commonplace among jihadis?

13 posted on 04/18/2010 12:43:36 AM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: powdered_whig; Halgr; sonofstrangelove

My first flight in a Lockheed C-130 Hercules was from Don Muang RTAFB, Thailand, to Korat RTAFB Thailand in 1968 and my last flight was from Torrejon Air Base, Spain to Aviano Air Base, Italy in 1981.


14 posted on 04/18/2010 12:47:21 AM PDT by Colorado Cowgirl (God bless America!)
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To: sonofstrangelove

The important part:

The AC-130J will be equipped with more powerful sensors, and armed with a single 30mm autocannon, and multiple launchers for Viper Strike and Griffin guided missiles (and perhaps the larger Hellfire as well). Viper Strike is a 90cm (36 inch) long unpowered glider. The 130mm diameter (with the wings folded) weapon weighs 20 kg (44 pounds). Because the Viper Strike comes straight down, it is better suited for urban warfare. Its warhead weighs only 1.8 kg (four pounds), and less than half of that is explosives. This means less damage to nearby civilians, but still powerful and accurate enough to destroy its target. A laser designator makes the Viper Strike accurate enough to hit an automobile, or a foxhole.

The Griffin is a 15.6 kg (34.5 pound) guided missile with a 5.9 kg (13 pound) warhead which is larger than that carried by the larger (47 kg) Hellfire missile. To achieve this, Griffin has a shorter range (4 kilometers), which is adequate for a gunship, which is designed to go after targets just below it, not far away.

U.S. SOCOM (Special Operations Command) has also adopted a U.S. Marine Corps idea to provide an “instant gunship” system, which enables weapons and sensors to be quickly rolled into a C-130 transport and hooked up. This takes a few hours, and turns the C-130 into a gunship armed with a 30mm autocannon and Viper Strike and Griffin missiles


15 posted on 04/18/2010 5:23:26 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine .. now it is your turn..)
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To: sonofstrangelove
Worst experience on C-130 was sitting on Cairo runway waiting for our C-141 ride home. Packed to the gills, had to be 130+F, engines running (hate that smell). After about an hour one guy finally lost it, triggering a technicolor yawn-a-palooza. Boy, that loadmaster was PO'd.

I never felt any safer in the air than a C-141, with the C-130 a close second. I hate flying commercial!

16 posted on 04/18/2010 6:33:01 AM PDT by Feckless (Don't care where he was born. The oath I took said "...against all enemies, foreign and domestic".)
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To: Halgr

I remember my first ride too, Man was not made to ride sideways on lawn furniture!


17 posted on 04/18/2010 6:36:29 AM PDT by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: sonofstrangelove
My one and only C-130 flight was from NAS Alameda to MCAS Kaneohe.

Long and loud.

18 posted on 04/18/2010 6:57:30 AM PDT by csvset
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To: ops33

LOL


19 posted on 04/18/2010 11:06:09 AM PDT by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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