Posted on 04/17/2010 9:47:47 AM PDT by Touch Not the Cat
Edited on 04/17/2010 10:38:04 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
The U.S. Army has dismissed a soldier who threatened fellow troops and sent the Pentagon a violent rap song he wrote to protest his Iraq redeployment orders, officials said Saturday.
The dismissal for misconduct means Spc. Marc A. Hall will avoid criminal charges but lose all military benefits earned over at least four years of service, including an earlier tour in Iraq.
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Anything but an Honorable Discharge tips employers off that a person might be a bad risk.
You'd think but OTH discharges aren't always job killers. Off the top of my head are two guys from my last command who got booted, one for alcoholism and the other for stealing from the exchange. They both landed government contractor jobs doing essentially the same things they did in the navy but for better pay and fewer work hours.
But an honorable discharge is definitely preferable to any alternative as losing veterans' benefits would sting quite a bit.
Woooooooooooah, hold it. I think you have me confused w/ someone who cares about this guy. What did I say about him that made you think otherwise? Read my previous posts (#6 & 19) again. I said that he needs to be “dealt w/ severely” & that he committed “a serious criminal act”.
In other words, I believe that, due to his threatening comments, he deserves to be in a MILITARY PRISON, not just taken out of theater or the Army. I don’t blame his fellow soldiers for being angry enough to wish that they could cause an “accident” involving this guy. I wouldn’t shed any tears if they did.
Yeah 4 years isn’t going to get you any benefits.
Maybe some tuition cash for a while but that is about it.
The whole thing is don’t write shitty rap songs about the war,don’t threaten fellow soldiers and don’t make a scene about going back over there.
Hell if you don’t want to go,tell them you either wet the bed on a regular basis or have decided that your conversion to Islam may stop you from doing your job.
They’ll understand.
I have no proof, but I bet employers who hire these people ultimately rue those decisions. In my experience kicking someone out of the Army with a BCD was always hard to do. As it should be.
A single act of wrong doing does not usually meet the standard. Usually it takes multiple, more than two, transgressions before the Army will even consider a BCD. In other words people who’ve earned BCDs have a significant history of bad behavior. They were bad soldiers and they’ll be bad civilians.
The Army has better things to do with its money than warehouse this guy.
You put a guy like this in prison the next thing you know he’s stirring up his fellow jail birds.
Much better all around to “chapter” his butt out.
A BCD is a whole different story. That's definitely a job killer. This guy isn't getting one of those. BCDs and DDs are the "gifts that keep on giving" and that's why the military requires a court martial to give the accused an opportunity to defend himself before they tattoo that to his forehead. Since it was mentioned that they weren't taking this guy to trial, the Army wouldn't be allowed to give him a BCD.
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