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Poll shows vets back energy bill; cite national security
Houston Chronicle/Texas on the Potomac ^ | April 06, 2010 | Jennifer Dlouhy

Posted on 04/15/2010 7:04:22 AM PDT by throwback

Four out of five veterans from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan think the U.S. would be more secure if the nation were weaned off foreign oil, according to the results of a poll released Tuesday.

The study, conducted by Lake Research Partners in February, also found that 64 percent of the surveyed veterans believe U.S. dependence on foreign energy endangers the lives of our troops by helping funnel money to hostile forces in oil-producing regions.

The survey was commissioned by VoteVets.org, a group that has backed work in Congress to pass broad energy and climate change legislation. It comes as a group of senators try to finish writing a new version of the bill that promotes domestic oil and gas production and nuclear power as well as caps on greenhouse gases blamed for global warming.

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I heard an ad on my radio this morning telling me to call my local congressman regarding the energy bill. It was sponsored by this VoteVets.org. Was curious where the funding leads back to. Looks like it leads back to who you'd expect. From Sourcewatch a quote from the leader of the group:

Who are your biggest contributors?) ... Well, I can’t disclose our private donors. I mean they don’t wish to be disclosed. Well, we have received some support from Democracy Alliance this year (2007)

and the Democracy Alliance:

"Members of the Democracy Alliance include billionaires like George Soros and his son Jonathan Soros, former Rockefeller Family Fund president Anne Bartley, San Francisco Bay Area donors Susie Tompkins Buell and Mark Buell, Hollywood director Rob Reiner, Taco Bell heir Rob McKay ... as well as New York financiers like Steven Gluckstern."

So if you hear this Vet's ad for Green energy, it's Soros. I'm sure this isn't news to many, but it was to me.

1 posted on 04/15/2010 7:04:23 AM PDT by throwback
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To: throwback

Ok, it seems to me they are putting words in the vets mouths.

To say we need to wean off of foreign oil is NOT the same thing as saying we need “Green energy.”

I think we need to wean off Middle East oil, but I think it should be by DRILLING OUR OWN OIL!!

So the organization is twisting the poll IMO.


2 posted on 04/15/2010 7:05:59 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: throwback

It doesn’t mean they don’t want us to drill for our own oil and gas.

Mostly they’ve been duped by the left.


3 posted on 04/15/2010 7:08:35 AM PDT by Carley (I'll keep clinging to the constitution, my guns and my religion, thank you.)
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To: throwback
Unfortunately, I have heard this sentiment from vets even after Gulf War I. I understand some of their thinking: they are tired of fighting in areas where the key export is oil, and, as military people, they think that it is poor strategy to rely on a critical material from people who we can't trust.

But they have fallen for the false dichotomy that we either rely on foreign oil or find alternate energy sources. They haven't thought about tapping into the oil resources that are abundant in the US.

4 posted on 04/15/2010 7:09:51 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: throwback
Our Vets have uncommon sense.

Our enemies will not allow us to go to them indefinitely for our oil. That's common sense to many of us. Vets KNOW through dealing with enemies that our days are numbered in buying THEIR oil.

5 posted on 04/15/2010 7:10:53 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: throwback

Treason thy name is Soros and Liberals in Congress and thugs in our White House.


6 posted on 04/15/2010 7:11:06 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead (Clean the RAT/RINO Sewer in 2010 and 2012)
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To: throwback
"Poll shows vets back energy bill; cite national security"

Why would animal doctors support this bill?

7 posted on 04/15/2010 7:11:28 AM PDT by ronnyquest (There's a communist living in the White House! Now, what are you going to do about it?)
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To: Carley
This is classic misdirection by the Greengang. Energy in various forms moves in worldwide markets. Withdrawing from the Middle East supply would do nothing but give brokers more of our energy dollar.
8 posted on 04/15/2010 7:11:30 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: autumnraine

Ok, it seems to me they are putting words in the vets mouths.

To say we need to wean off of foreign oil is NOT the same thing as saying we need “Green energy.”

I think we need to wean off Middle East oil, but I think it should be by DRILLING OUR OWN OIL!!

So the organization is twisting the poll IMO.


AGREE!


9 posted on 04/15/2010 7:11:41 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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I wasn’t of the impression that the energy bill contains a material “drill here drill now” provision or that as much as 80% of our veterans have any expertise in generating reliable kilowattage from pinwheels.

Then again, there’s so much to read these days and I find it pretty difficult to keep up with most reliable sources of information that I generally don’t get around to the Houston newspapers all that much.


10 posted on 04/15/2010 7:16:34 AM PDT by Mobties
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To: throwback

More leftist propaganda.


11 posted on 04/15/2010 7:17:51 AM PDT by stockpirate ("......When the government fears the people you have liberty." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: throwback
“It comes as a group of senators try to finish writing a new version of the bill that promotes domestic oil and gas production and nuclear power as well as caps on greenhouse gases blamed for global warming.”

This is bull. Don't buy it. The Demoncrats do NOT want to drill for oil - they ALWAYS phrase this as FUTURE PLANS after studying it. Heck we have studied it to death already and KNOW where our OIL is in THIS country.

Nuclear power is still wrongly viewed as being a form of a nuclear bomb - which it isn't. Three Mile Island will come up and people will fall for the disinformation.

Ah,”caps on greenhouse gases blamed for global warming” - this is what they WANT and will DO if PASSED. Cap and trade will further KILL business. There is NO EVIDENCE that “greenhouse gases” contribute to gloBULL warming. It's another socialistic money grab to redistribute wealth and punish capitalists. They are teasing people by letting them believe they will become energy independent when they have NO INTENTION of doing that - it's a sneaky way to bundle Cap and Trade with something people WANT - energy independence but will not get.
For example, I read elsewhere that an area in Alaska will be "studied" for oil drilling. Of course it has already been determined that their target HAS NO OIL. Where we KNOW there is oil, is OFF LIMITS for drilling. So it will be another colossal waste of time and money and another useless expensive study. The taxpayers will be screwed again.

12 posted on 04/15/2010 7:19:04 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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13 posted on 04/15/2010 7:24:09 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (Barack Obama is Osama bin Laden's relief pitcher.)
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To: nmh

They most certainly are putting words in ALL Vets mouths. I recently returned from Iraq and was over by the local University when I saw a bunch of these weenies handing out fliers. I asked them what was up and observed that none of them were combat vets. I asked about domestic drilling and they said that green energy was superior because it will ensure our independence from foreign oil. These idiots are nothing more than enviro-crazies parading in a fashion that will manipulate uninformed people that Vets oppose any kind of fossil fuel use.


14 posted on 04/15/2010 7:25:54 AM PDT by killermedic (Git some, baby)
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To: throwback
Yeah, the vets are being duped and used.

This is NOT about a plentiful supply of energy entirely controlled by the US for national defense and reduce risk to the military in defending foreign oil.

It is about squandering tax dollars on alternative energy schemes that won't deliver and will destroy the US economy and national defense.

But, don't worry, a few elite leftists will get enormously wealthy, so it's all ok.

15 posted on 04/15/2010 7:49:47 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: throwback; Mobties

Not this guy:



Or this guy either! LOL



Pray for Our American Heroes, "green" or otherwise!


16 posted on 04/15/2010 7:51:17 AM PDT by left that other site (Your Mi'KMaq Paddy Whacky Bass Playing Biker Buddy)
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To: throwback

How many of these “Vets” are REAL front-line troops or how many of them are REMFs?


17 posted on 04/15/2010 7:52:09 AM PDT by US Navy Vet
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To: killermedic
Speak up more!

Write your local paper and CORRECT them.

It's awful how they are LYING and twisting words to fit their LEFTIST agenda.

More importantly though, thank you for serving. We love you guys. NEVER believe that the Obama types and the mainstream media speaks for NORMAL people. May God bless you.

18 posted on 04/15/2010 7:52:57 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: killermedic

My GOD! Sometimes I am almost afraid to read the news.

Sorry to switch gears here but it gets worse all the time:

Obama: America a Superpower ‘Whether We Like It or Not’

FOXNews.com

...

“It is a vital national security interest of the United States to reduce these conflicts because whether we like it or not, we remain a dominant military superpower, and when conflicts break out, one way or another we get pulled into them,” Obama said. “And that ends up costing us significantly in terms of both blood and treasure.”

...

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/04/15/obama-america-superpower-like/


19 posted on 04/15/2010 7:55:44 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: autumnraine
I think we need to wean off Middle East oil, but I think it should be by DRILLING OUR OWN OIL!!Ditto!
20 posted on 04/15/2010 8:29:52 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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