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I heard an ad on my radio this morning telling me to call my local congressman regarding the energy bill. It was sponsored by this VoteVets.org. Was curious where the funding leads back to. Looks like it leads back to who you'd expect. From Sourcewatch a quote from the leader of the group:

Who are your biggest contributors?) ... Well, I can’t disclose our private donors. I mean they don’t wish to be disclosed. Well, we have received some support from Democracy Alliance this year (2007)

and the Democracy Alliance:

"Members of the Democracy Alliance include billionaires like George Soros and his son Jonathan Soros, former Rockefeller Family Fund president Anne Bartley, San Francisco Bay Area donors Susie Tompkins Buell and Mark Buell, Hollywood director Rob Reiner, Taco Bell heir Rob McKay ... as well as New York financiers like Steven Gluckstern."

So if you hear this Vet's ad for Green energy, it's Soros. I'm sure this isn't news to many, but it was to me.

1 posted on 04/15/2010 7:04:23 AM PDT by throwback
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To: throwback

Ok, it seems to me they are putting words in the vets mouths.

To say we need to wean off of foreign oil is NOT the same thing as saying we need “Green energy.”

I think we need to wean off Middle East oil, but I think it should be by DRILLING OUR OWN OIL!!

So the organization is twisting the poll IMO.


2 posted on 04/15/2010 7:05:59 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: throwback

It doesn’t mean they don’t want us to drill for our own oil and gas.

Mostly they’ve been duped by the left.


3 posted on 04/15/2010 7:08:35 AM PDT by Carley (I'll keep clinging to the constitution, my guns and my religion, thank you.)
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To: throwback
Unfortunately, I have heard this sentiment from vets even after Gulf War I. I understand some of their thinking: they are tired of fighting in areas where the key export is oil, and, as military people, they think that it is poor strategy to rely on a critical material from people who we can't trust.

But they have fallen for the false dichotomy that we either rely on foreign oil or find alternate energy sources. They haven't thought about tapping into the oil resources that are abundant in the US.

4 posted on 04/15/2010 7:09:51 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: throwback
Our Vets have uncommon sense.

Our enemies will not allow us to go to them indefinitely for our oil. That's common sense to many of us. Vets KNOW through dealing with enemies that our days are numbered in buying THEIR oil.

5 posted on 04/15/2010 7:10:53 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: throwback

Treason thy name is Soros and Liberals in Congress and thugs in our White House.


6 posted on 04/15/2010 7:11:06 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead (Clean the RAT/RINO Sewer in 2010 and 2012)
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To: throwback
"Poll shows vets back energy bill; cite national security"

Why would animal doctors support this bill?

7 posted on 04/15/2010 7:11:28 AM PDT by ronnyquest (There's a communist living in the White House! Now, what are you going to do about it?)
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To: throwback

I wasn’t of the impression that the energy bill contains a material “drill here drill now” provision or that as much as 80% of our veterans have any expertise in generating reliable kilowattage from pinwheels.

Then again, there’s so much to read these days and I find it pretty difficult to keep up with most reliable sources of information that I generally don’t get around to the Houston newspapers all that much.


10 posted on 04/15/2010 7:16:34 AM PDT by Mobties
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To: throwback

More leftist propaganda.


11 posted on 04/15/2010 7:17:51 AM PDT by stockpirate ("......When the government fears the people you have liberty." Thomas Jefferson)
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“It comes as a group of senators try to finish writing a new version of the bill that promotes domestic oil and gas production and nuclear power as well as caps on greenhouse gases blamed for global warming.”

This is bull. Don't buy it. The Demoncrats do NOT want to drill for oil - they ALWAYS phrase this as FUTURE PLANS after studying it. Heck we have studied it to death already and KNOW where our OIL is in THIS country.

Nuclear power is still wrongly viewed as being a form of a nuclear bomb - which it isn't. Three Mile Island will come up and people will fall for the disinformation.

Ah,”caps on greenhouse gases blamed for global warming” - this is what they WANT and will DO if PASSED. Cap and trade will further KILL business. There is NO EVIDENCE that “greenhouse gases” contribute to gloBULL warming. It's another socialistic money grab to redistribute wealth and punish capitalists. They are teasing people by letting them believe they will become energy independent when they have NO INTENTION of doing that - it's a sneaky way to bundle Cap and Trade with something people WANT - energy independence but will not get.
For example, I read elsewhere that an area in Alaska will be "studied" for oil drilling. Of course it has already been determined that their target HAS NO OIL. Where we KNOW there is oil, is OFF LIMITS for drilling. So it will be another colossal waste of time and money and another useless expensive study. The taxpayers will be screwed again.

12 posted on 04/15/2010 7:19:04 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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13 posted on 04/15/2010 7:24:09 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (Barack Obama is Osama bin Laden's relief pitcher.)
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To: throwback
Yeah, the vets are being duped and used.

This is NOT about a plentiful supply of energy entirely controlled by the US for national defense and reduce risk to the military in defending foreign oil.

It is about squandering tax dollars on alternative energy schemes that won't deliver and will destroy the US economy and national defense.

But, don't worry, a few elite leftists will get enormously wealthy, so it's all ok.

15 posted on 04/15/2010 7:49:47 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: throwback; Mobties

Not this guy:



Or this guy either! LOL



Pray for Our American Heroes, "green" or otherwise!


16 posted on 04/15/2010 7:51:17 AM PDT by left that other site (Your Mi'KMaq Paddy Whacky Bass Playing Biker Buddy)
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To: throwback

How many of these “Vets” are REAL front-line troops or how many of them are REMFs?


17 posted on 04/15/2010 7:52:09 AM PDT by US Navy Vet
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To: throwback

If you take a poll asking Americans if we should “wean ourselves off of foreign” ANYTHING you will get a majority yes response. Just more typical Dem spin/propaganda to push Cap n Tax.


21 posted on 04/15/2010 8:39:19 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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