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SHOCK POLL: 2012 Presidential Election Match-UpBarack Obama, Ron Paul... in yer dreams troll... ZOT!
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Posted on 04/14/2010 7:41:14 AM PDT by Woebama

Edited on 04/14/2010 3:31:35 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Pit maverick Republican Congressman Ron Paul against President Obama in a hypothetical 2012 election match-up, and the race is – virtually dead even.

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of likely voters finds Obama with 42% support and Paul with 41% of the vote. Eleven percent (11%) prefer some other candidate, and six percent (6%) are undecided.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012gopprimary; droolingpaultard; kittychow; paul2012; paulbot; paulestinians; paultard; ronpaul; vk; zot; zuluoscartango
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To: mnehring

I googled the source of that photo. Thanks for posting, I suppose, but like most of this thread everyone seems to assume the worst about Paul without support or supporting information.

Here is the source (I think): http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=28353&only

Which is a photo taken at a debate. No reason to think Paul knew who they were at all at least that I see.


261 posted on 04/14/2010 2:16:10 PM PDT by Woebama
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To: mnehring

“Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power.” — Benito Mussolini


262 posted on 04/14/2010 2:21:09 PM PDT by Woebama
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To: Woebama

This was at the reception after the Value Voter’s Summit, a private, and very small reception where only those invited by a candidate could get in.. it is still a mystery how Don Black and his kid got tickets. If it were just one pic, that would be one thing, but it is a piece of a larger puzzle where all the pieces point to the same thing... from his continued association with people like Lew Rockwell to his quasi-racist and conspiratorial writings in the 80s and 90s, to statements by former staffers who left because of the ‘level of anti-Semitism’- it all shows that if Paul isn’t on the mindset it appears, he sure has a piss poor level of judgment. There are also some of us who still remember the fundraising scandal he and Lewellen were caught up in during the 88 Presdential campaign.. there is a reason why he only courts Libertarians now, but actually has no direct party affiliation with them any more.


263 posted on 04/14/2010 2:22:01 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Woebama

And, as I said, Mussonlini’s statement isn’t accurate in regards to economic theory or history. It is another one of those quotations very commonly misued like Ike’s ‘military industrial complex’ statement. However, even if you took it on grade-school level face value, it still shows Paul was wrong as what we are seeing here in no way is a ‘merger of State and corporate power’, it is a socialistic take over and elimination of the corproate by the State- aka, socialism.


264 posted on 04/14/2010 2:25:29 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehring

“Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power.” — Benito Mussolini

Also: Corporatism
The fascist economic theory corporatism called for organizing each of the major sectors of industry, agriculture, the professions, and the arts into state- or management-controlled trade unions and employer associations, or “corporations,” each of which would negotiate labour contracts and working conditions and represent the general interests of their professions in a larger assembly of corporations, or “corporatist parliament.” Corporatist institutions would replace all independent organizations of workers and employers, and the corporatist parliament would replace, or at least exist alongside, traditional representative and legislative bodies.
(from encyclopedia britanica)

I think you know about corporatism or seem to from your post. I’ve been aware of it since a college course on fascist economics. I think Paul hit the nail with his head on this one.


265 posted on 04/14/2010 2:25:35 PM PDT by Woebama
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To: mnehring

Ok. We disagree. I think the profit motive will be there i the system Obama is creating for the big enterprises that are state favored and work with the state . . . profits will be private, losses will be corporate for the state favored enterprises. They are already with the Banks making bad business decisions, charging us (the people) overly high interest on credit cards etc., but when they screw up on the mortgages the government bails them out with our tax dollars . . . and the bankers keep making fortunes! It’s a corporatist system.

The stuff you write about Mussolini is off base. Corporatism was fascist economics. No two ways about it. To the extent fascist economic theory was developed it was corporatism.


266 posted on 04/14/2010 2:29:35 PM PDT by Woebama
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To: mnehring

Is the hate level for Paul internecine Libertarian fighting from way back? I’ve noticed that a group of 5 Libertarians will fight with each other tooth and nail and create 3 splinter groups in a single evening.


267 posted on 04/14/2010 2:31:24 PM PDT by Woebama
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To: Woebama

LOL, so?


268 posted on 04/14/2010 2:35:31 PM PDT by Darksheare (Windows Se7en: It's called "seven" for a reason.)
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To: mnehring

I believe so, if those are the StormFront morons.


269 posted on 04/14/2010 2:36:07 PM PDT by Darksheare (Windows Se7en: It's called "seven" for a reason.)
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To: Woebama

LOL, this coming from the guy who was isnulting to everyone else for not iking Ru Paul.


270 posted on 04/14/2010 2:36:41 PM PDT by Darksheare (Windows Se7en: It's called "seven" for a reason.)
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To: Woebama

Yes, he knew.
And yes, associations do matter.


271 posted on 04/14/2010 2:37:12 PM PDT by Darksheare (Windows Se7en: It's called "seven" for a reason.)
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To: Woebama

“You are kidding? Paul is for smaller government in a bigger way than any other candidate.”

A small government controlled by Al qaeda and Iran is too big for me.


272 posted on 04/14/2010 2:37:33 PM PDT by ari-freedom
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To: Woebama

It’s because he’s a clueless crapweaasel who doesn’t know when to shut the heck up and leave.


273 posted on 04/14/2010 2:37:47 PM PDT by Darksheare (Windows Se7en: It's called "seven" for a reason.)
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To: mnehring

I searched the only anti-semitism stuff I saw was Ron Paul saying the AIPIC or whatever the Jewish lobby is has too much influence. I’m nuetral on that personally.


274 posted on 04/14/2010 2:40:31 PM PDT by Woebama
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To: Darksheare

You just say things with no support. If I had an ignore button here I’d hit it for you.


275 posted on 04/14/2010 2:42:41 PM PDT by Woebama
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To: Woebama
Your post 107 says that you had a different handle.
What was it?
276 posted on 04/14/2010 2:42:47 PM PDT by Darksheare (Windows Se7en: It's called "seven" for a reason.)
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To: Woebama

LOL, the pic of RuPaul with the STormfront guys is up thread.
And he most certainly agrees with Alex Jones.
That is easily looked up, IF you care to take off your blinders and actually look.
But I know that you won’t.


277 posted on 04/14/2010 2:43:43 PM PDT by Darksheare (Windows Se7en: It's called "seven" for a reason.)
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To: Woebama

That, and you’re a liar who says you’re not a Ron Paul supporter, yet every post of yours in this thread is that of a Paulbot.


278 posted on 04/14/2010 2:44:45 PM PDT by Darksheare (Windows Se7en: It's called "seven" for a reason.)
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To: Darksheare

Darksheareisachild


279 posted on 04/14/2010 2:45:11 PM PDT by Woebama
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To: Woebama

Is that the best you’ve got in response to the fact that you said you had a different handle?


280 posted on 04/14/2010 2:46:43 PM PDT by Darksheare (Windows Se7en: It's called "seven" for a reason.)
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