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GUNSHOTS ON THE POLISH PRESIDENT'S PLANE CRASHSITE (VIDEO!)
YouTube ^ | April 12, 2010

Posted on 04/13/2010 1:54:16 PM PDT by lizol

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To: autumnraine

sound more like chambered rounds than baking off.


121 posted on 04/14/2010 2:02:46 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: lizol

Got it. Thanks


122 posted on 04/14/2010 2:03:22 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Vendome
Look at the video, more or less at 0:34. Take a look a bit to the right side of the tree, in the centre of the screen.

Don’t you think there’s a silouette, that looks like a sitting person, wearing white (a shirt?), trying to rise his hands?

123 posted on 04/14/2010 2:10:12 PM PDT by lizol
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To: lizol

I can’t see it and I am on a 42” screen. Maybe if you took a screen shot and circled?


124 posted on 04/14/2010 2:22:59 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Vendome

Nevermind, maybe I just see want I want to see.


125 posted on 04/14/2010 2:25:44 PM PDT by lizol
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To: lizol

Sorry. Just so sorry.


126 posted on 04/14/2010 2:28:01 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Vendome

One more thing came to my mind, when I’m thinking about this movie.

Several years ago - in 2004 - a helicopter with Polish PM Leszek Miller fell down.

http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1P1-89758837.html

Fortunately - no one was killed, several people were injured, including the PM.

After that event Leszek Miller many times talked about it on TV (especially these days).
And he recalled one scene - when the helicopter was going down, the Government Security Beaureau officer pulled out his gun and reloaded it saying, that in case they’ll burst in fire - he’s going to shot himself in the head, as he prefers to die that way, not to be burnt alive.


127 posted on 04/14/2010 2:59:12 PM PDT by lizol
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To: attiladhun2
To not understand this aspect of being Russian is to be dangerously naive.
128 posted on 04/14/2010 3:02:25 PM PDT by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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To: lizol
And 3 or more gunshots on the crashsite?

Probably the security detail's ammo burning up in the wreckage.

129 posted on 04/14/2010 3:03:21 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Camel Joe
Beware the Bear, solidarity is our only salvation.

What was that Serbian slogan, the CCCC/SSSS one?

I always translated it as, "Sluggo Slobo, Socko Serbo!"

Which we did.

130 posted on 04/14/2010 3:13:35 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: lizol

Thanks for thinking ahead and downloading the video. Last night my husband wondered how long it would take for it to be taken off of youtube.


131 posted on 04/14/2010 3:28:29 PM PDT by Oorang (Tyranny thrives where government need not fear the wrath of an armed people - Alex Kozinski)
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To: lizol

You have had a lot of near misses in the last several years.

The Bear is on the prowl.


132 posted on 04/14/2010 3:30:55 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Nope. Those were spaced shots. When ammo goes off it happens emasse.


133 posted on 04/14/2010 3:32:05 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Vendome
So state your thesis.

The accident was a mass-murder and assassination staged by the FSB in support of a state initiative authored by Vladimir Putin?

134 posted on 04/14/2010 3:39:25 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus

Okay, close enough and yes.

Putin upon hearing everyone was coming on one plane must have thought “Am I lucky or what?”. I bet for the first time in his life he wet his pants from the excitement.

But for now, I will settle on pilot failure because any other story would invite a bigger disaster.


135 posted on 04/14/2010 4:09:16 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Vendome

And to further answer the burn off of ammo. I may have done a dumb thing or two as a kid and they go off about like fire Crackers.


136 posted on 04/14/2010 4:10:42 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: lentulusgracchus

The preson that uploaded this video added there some boxes showing interesting things on this video. Check this out.

First box shows person that appears behind the tree, it’s quite easy to see it. Second box shows some big black dressed person runing behind that tree, it’s hard to see cause you can see him for like 1 frame on that movie. Next boxes are counting 4 sounds/shots.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZ5Vjjozt3I


137 posted on 04/14/2010 4:27:20 PM PDT by pole1567
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To: lizol
update--on internet--Man who shot Polish plane crash gunshots footage stabbed to death?

As reported by numerous Polish and Ukrainian Web forums, the man who filmed a video that appeared to depict gunshots being fired in the immediate aftermath of the Polish plane crash has apparently been stabbed to death in what many are claiming was a deliberate assassination to silence the individual from making public whatever it was he saw.

Author of the video seen by everyone by now: Andrei Menderey has been stabbed near the Ukrainian capital of Kiev last Thursday, April 15, 2010, and transported in critical condition to the hospital in Kiev. On April 16,2010, two unidentified individuals unplugged him from life support system and stabbed him 3 more times. Andrei was pronounced dead that afternoon.

The video, as well as the apparent fate of the man who shot the footage, have not been reported on by any mainstream news outlet, and the story cannot be completely verified, although the footage in the clip is very similar to images and video seen after the crash.

Kavkaz Center

138 posted on 04/23/2010 6:07:48 AM PDT by opentalk
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