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To: cookcounty
Many scientists subscribe to the notion that "Nature is all there is" which is a philosophical statement but not a scientific statement.

Very true, but this is the crux of the matter in teaching evo vs ID. The evos will say that what they are teaching is "science" devoid of "religion", and that ID is "religion" devoid of any "science". The problem is that both have a philosophical presupposition that cannot be proven with the scientific method.

What needs to be pointed out is that any origin theory is based in a philosophical presupposition, and as such, has a certain amount of faith to it.

23 posted on 04/13/2010 7:42:50 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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I don’t agree.

Science is not based on faith but on putting up a thesis without any faith, knowing it may be wrong. It’s only based on observation and logical links to other observations and the point is not to regard it as truth for all time but a temporary base of work until obeservations are made that make your thesis obsolete or incomplete or wrong.

In fact faith is a problematic attitude for a scientist since they are certainly tempted and do fall in love with their theories all the time - but the philosophie is - and that is what every scientist gets tought and what every priest is forbidden: To not fall into love with theories, models, interpretations etc. but to test them, make your own and put them to a discussion.

It is the essence of science to be unfaithful.


36 posted on 04/14/2010 2:28:06 AM PDT by Rummenigge (there are people willing to blow out the light because it casts a shadow)
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