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Richard Dawkins: I Will Arrest Pope Benedict XVI
London Times ^ | April 10th 2010 | Marc Horne

Posted on 04/10/2010 11:49:41 PM PDT by Steelfish

April 11, 2010 Richard Dawkins: I Will Arrest Pope Benedict XVI Marc Horne

Atheist campaigner Richard Dawkins RICHARD DAWKINS, the atheist campaigner, is planning a legal ambush to have the Pope arrested during his state visit to Britain “for crimes against humanity”.

Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens, the atheist author, have asked human rights lawyers to produce a case for charging Pope Benedict XVI over his alleged cover-up of sexual abuse in the Catholic church.

The pair believe they can exploit the same legal principle used to arrest Augusto Pinochet, the late Chilean dictator, when he visited Britain in 1998.

The Pope was embroiled in new controversy this weekend over a letter he signed arguing that the “good of the universal church” should be considered against the defrocking of an American priest who committed sex offences against two boys. It was dated 1985, when he was in charge of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, which deals with sex abuse cases.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: atheisthate; atheists; attentionwhore; dawkins; hitchens; nutjob; popebenedictxvi; richarddawkins; scientism; vatican
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To: grey_whiskers

That’s an argument you can apply to any religious text.

Thanks for proving my case.

G’dday!


641 posted on 04/12/2010 9:57:53 PM PDT by James C. Bennett
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To: James C. Bennett; grey_whiskers; Steelfish

The reason for killing all is given in verse two, which you have been consistently ignoring. But this was the incident to which they were referring.

The only way to blot out the memory of Amalek from under heaven was to kill them all. Otherwise they would just rise up and do it again.

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Exodus 17: 8 The Amalekites came and attacked the Israelites at Rephidim. 9 Moses said to Joshua, “Choose some of our men and go out to fight the Amalekites. Tomorrow I will stand on top of the hill with the staff of God in my hands.”

10 So Joshua fought the Amalekites as Moses had ordered, and Moses, Aaron and Hur went to the top of the hill. 11 As long as Moses held up his hands, the Israelites were winning, but whenever he lowered his hands, the Amalekites were winning. 12 When Moses’ hands grew tired, they took a stone and put it under him and he sat on it. Aaron and Hur held his hands up—one on one side, one on the other—so that his hands remained steady till sunset. 13 So Joshua overcame the Amalekite army with the sword.

14 Then the LORD said to Moses, “Write this on a scroll as something to be remembered and make sure that Joshua hears it, because I will completely blot out the memory of Amalek from under heaven.”

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Your turn. Explain the ritual human sacrifice of children in Hinduism for so long without even the reason of capitol punishment, but just the lousy excuse of satisfying the blood lust of some demon.


642 posted on 04/12/2010 9:59:03 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

You support the ritual slaughter of children so that a tribe is extinguished? Is behaviour encoded in the DNA that allows for slaughtering children AND INFANTS, instead of adopting them?

Wow, just wow.

No child-sacrifice in the Gita. Try again.


643 posted on 04/12/2010 10:01:49 PM PDT by James C. Bennett
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To: James C. Bennett
I wasn't making the argument; nor does the Catholic Church.

But you were, against your own religious text.

When I called you on it, you accused me of your own error.

Because you're a troll.

644 posted on 04/12/2010 10:04:19 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.http://www.free)
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To: James C. Bennett
You haven't yet demonstrated how one divides true Hinduism from orthodoxy -- nor yet what it has to do with the Gita; nor still yet the difference between the Thuggees and regular Hindus.

Nighty-night again, troll-boy.

645 posted on 04/12/2010 10:06:35 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.http://www.free)
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To: grey_whiskers

The Gita, you silly troll!


646 posted on 04/12/2010 10:07:23 PM PDT by James C. Bennett
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To: grey_whiskers

So you don’t use scripture to define faith? Does that mean an act of paedophilia in the Catholic Church may be interpreted as part of the religion? Or do you hypocritically use scripture to filter out what is admissible and what is not?


647 posted on 04/12/2010 10:08:49 PM PDT by James C. Bennett
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To: metmom

Read the Old Testament is not like reading your morning local newspaper where quotes can be selectively pulled out and held up as a definitive textual interpretation. In serious academic circles this would be considered “clownish”

Please review the essay below and it might put an end to this sophomoric turning around of chasing one’s own tail because as the essay details the depths of scholarly exegesis does not admit of facile references.

http://www.quodlibet.net/articles/odendaal-interpretation.shtml


648 posted on 04/12/2010 10:33:42 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: metmom

They are not truely Christians, and will answer foir every word.


649 posted on 04/13/2010 3:35:04 PM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: metmom; grey_whiskers

How would you classify this one, Hindu agent provocateur?


650 posted on 04/13/2010 11:06:24 PM PDT by Fichori ('Wee-Weed Up' pitchfork wielding neolithic caveman villager with lit torch. Any questions?)
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To: Steelfish
May the Pope get that which is coming to him if he was complicit.
Now, is the outrage and call for arrest really coming from the very same Richard Dawkins who argues that some are merely “gentle pedophiles” and that too much is made of some cases of pedophilia???
Find details here.
651 posted on 04/14/2010 5:38:58 AM PDT by MarianoApologeticus (The same Dawkins?)
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To: Fichori
Autofellator retread.

Cheers!

652 posted on 04/14/2010 7:53:41 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.http://www.free)
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To: wmfights

“And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea.” — Mark 9:42

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I wonder how many parents who needlessly provoke their children to wrath will be brought up short on that standard.


653 posted on 04/14/2010 9:43:52 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: James C. Bennett

I won’t accept re-interpretations, especially not for verses that are plain, simple, and unambiguous. It is impossible for me to accept contorted, MANMADE re-interpretations of such verses, twisting them to such an extent that they are forced to mean the opposite of what they really convey.

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I’m much the same way—particularly on those plainly worded verses.


654 posted on 04/14/2010 9:57:30 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: MarianoApologeticus

If the Pope was unrighteous, then there simply will be a reward lost at the bema seat for all eternity. Discipline might occur in this life prior to the first death so that we might return to Him.

We might seek justice, but in this world, the most just thing is for us to return to Him through faith in Christ, not by any other mechanism than what He provides.

Why should we expect God to correct injustice, when all He has to do is provide by His grace what He wills, while the past unrighteousness is simply cleansed and washed away?


655 posted on 04/15/2010 5:32:39 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Quix
I wonder how many parents who needlessly provoke their children to wrath will be brought up short on that standard.

I've never thought of it that way. I've always viewed that as doing harm to a child. Parents are never perfect, raising children is very hard and we do make mistakes.

656 posted on 04/15/2010 9:52:19 AM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: wmfights

YES.

However,

I know of many adults who’s lives are wrecked primarily because of a childhood full of that error.


657 posted on 04/15/2010 10:10:42 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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