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Did Hawaii have any records on Obama before 2006?
post & email ^ | April 8, 2010 | Sharon Rondeau

Posted on 04/09/2010 10:11:55 AM PDT by Red Steel

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To: Fred Nerks

Accordung to subsequent comments on the thread, it looks as though the AT comments were pulled. Note comment 78, maybe John Drew was contacted by the one who made those comments and has more info.


81 posted on 04/09/2010 2:30:37 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: Fred Nerks
Yes it is not there on American Thinker but it is on Breitbart: riccy44   February 28th, 2010 - 3:53 pm Dr. Drew, I also tried to tell about OBamas grandfather his mother and father in Hawaii and got no where 4 years ago. Fox, and many talk show hosts.
Obamas family were all marxist. had words with grandfather his mother and father. They got very angery when you did not see things their way.
I was at rallies they had, some at U of Hawaii 1961- 1962 – 1963. The first was shortly after they had come back from Africa with new baby. I know the truth, No one will listen, I am not a kook , for those who want the truth here it is.
I could care less where he was born. some do, his mother was a U S citizen.
In Hawaii during this time the family put in the paper of any births. The hospitals did not. This can explain how got into news papers at this time.
I knew of some who came from mainland and other countries who got record of live birth in Hawaii when had none when they came to the islands. Parents went to human services swore child was theirs and documents were given ,
a certificate of live birth from State of Hawaii. This was most for welfare and public money for support or military dependants.
To get birth certificates need the doctor and hospital and seems was 3 others to be witness account Hawaiian race issues. Father and mother both had to sign this document shortly, within the first hour after the birth.
Good luck JOHN DREW on the fight for truth. Watch your back as these
people are ruthless. John C. Drew, Ph.D.   March 2nd, 2010 - 10:35 pm - riccy44 I’m eager to speak with you on the phone. I think you might be the missing link who can help explain the intensity of young Barack Obama’s commitment to Marxism. You can track me down through my Speaker Match website at http://www.speakermatch.com/profile/drdrew Maybe if we work together we can get this story on Hannity or Glenn Beck. Regards, John ------------------------------- http://www.breitbart.tv/the-b-cast-interview-was-obama-a-committed-marxist-in-college/ ---------or------------- http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:sgsB1J_HLb8J:www.breitbart.tv/the-b-cast-interview-was-obama-a-committed-marxist-in-college/+riccy44&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&client=safari
82 posted on 04/09/2010 2:30:46 PM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: Red Steel

It is possible that the Obama operatives did a ‘cut and paste’ job on the few known microfiches inserting the Obama birth announcements
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That is what they did, it was NOT in the actual papers on that day. Now to prove who did it and when.


83 posted on 04/09/2010 2:46:46 PM PDT by mojitojoe (I don't care what you passed. you are irrelevant. I'll NEVER comply in any way. Read my lips, NEVER!)
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To: mojitojoe

“That is what they did, it was NOT in the actual papers on that day. Now to prove who did it and when.”

The first I heard about the newspaper announcements was on a blog site I believe called “Texas Darling.”

If I remember correctly, before the elections, some woman posted in the comments section that she went to the library and got the microfish information first hand from the librarian. She was so sorry to inform everybody that his birth was listed there.


84 posted on 04/09/2010 2:52:55 PM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: edge919

Yes that part I saw right away was odd, but the rest has the ring of truth ...


85 posted on 04/09/2010 2:55:31 PM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

If a man who was born in China I forget his name Sun something or other and still able to get a certification of birth from Hawaii then there is something definitely wrong with Hawaii


86 posted on 04/09/2010 3:15:03 PM PDT by jcsjcm (American Patriot - follow the Constitution and in God we Trust - Laus Deo)
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To: jcsjcm

Here is another one:

http://www.igorthetroll.com/blog/usa-visa-application-refused/

1. riccy44 Says:
November 17th, 2008 at 8:28 pm
J.D. is a real consulate ass. Typical of the mind set of consulate officers. They claim to be well trained. Most could not even work at Mc,Cs flippen hamburgers.
My wife, a Chinese citizen was refused a visa to the USA. Reason who knows? We own property together in China. Since 2003 have transfered
over 100,000 to a chinese bank. The paper they gave her says we have no family relationship. ? Real crappy people at the Guanzhou consulate.
My bio is US navy 6 yeras. NO criminal history. College, 30 years working in transportation USA. My wife has no criminal history. grad. U. of Beijing.
Math teacher.
My wife does not ever want to be a citizen of the USA.


87 posted on 04/09/2010 3:15:25 PM PDT by mojitojoe (I don't care what you passed. you are irrelevant. I'll NEVER comply in any way. Read my lips, NEVER!)
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To: Smokeyblue; LucyT

To: Gemsbok; Polarik; LucyT
http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/07/23/obama-was-likely-born-in-hawaii/#comment-12206

“...the clipping comes from the archives at the State Library in Honolulu. It’s on microfiche, and anyone who lives in Hawaii could go there and pull it themselves. Interestingly, I was the first person to request that search...

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/07/23/obama-was-likely-born-in-hawaii/#comment-12216

“...What you know is that Texas Darlin’ has received an email forwarded from the Hawaii State Library that is a a clipping from the Honolulu Advertiser’s Sunday August 13th, 1961 edition that proves the Department of Vital Records provided a list of births for the previous week that included Barack Obama – that’s what you know.

You’re not taking my word for it. You’re taking TD’s word for it. I have given her the name and number of the librarian I spoke with and she has the forwarded email. You, yourself, are free to call either Vital Records or the Honolulu Advertiser and ask questions about how birth certificates and birth announcements were handled in 1961...”

(Searching for the origin of the ‘birth announcement’ - seems that ‘Lori’ maintains there is an original on microfiche...but the announcement itself was received by E-MAIL!)

7,679 posted on Saturday, May 16, 2009 8:52:54 AM by Fred Nerks

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/03/barack-hussein-birth-announcement-forgery-the-fraud-goes-on.html

Here’s a comment on Atlas Shrugs from Infidel Granny, reminding Pamela just where the birth announcement came from. It was a scan, e-mailed to her.

“Pamela,
Infidel Granny here. I am the woman who sent you the birth announcement from the Honolulu Advertiser in July 2008. You gave me a hat tip on July 23, 2008.
I sure hope you don’t think I had anything to do with a forgery.
The woman I spoke to at the Advertiser suggested I contact the Hawaii State Librbary for the info. That’s where I got it from just as it states in the blog on July 23. The librarian stated another woman had asked for the same thing about one week before I did.
You might still have my email and phone number. Feel free to contact me if you like.”


88 posted on 04/09/2010 3:15:40 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: butterdezillion

“DOH’s retention schedules say those have to be maintained permanently”

Yep.

“There should be either original copies or microfilms.”

There was a grant back in the early 80’s for city and county clerks to put the books onto microfilm. This was for two reasons. One, because many of the older books were getting damaged by the public rumaging through them, and two to save room. However, most still let the public use the original books. At this point in time, I would not trust that microfilm any more than I’d trust the microfilmed newspaper announcements. BTW, the birth indexes are NOT off limits to the general public. But, and this is a big BUT, that doesn’t mean that the index can’t be faked. The indexes are put together with loose pages and pages are added as needed, so a page can easily be substituted. Even the original record books and be quickly faked if they are the loose leaf kind and not the bound kind. Of course the bound kind can be faked by someone with the proper materials and access.

Check this out for addresses and resources (did the Health Dept quit making a distinction in registering delayed births in 72?):

http://files.usgwarchives.net/hi/misc/locate.txt

Obituary Daily Times (you’ll know what to do):

http://obits.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/obit.cgi

SS# :

http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi

BTW, what is VDR?


89 posted on 04/09/2010 3:15:55 PM PDT by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: Terabitten

http://www.freerepublic.com/~frednerks/

check out BLACK STAR LINE, no manifests, no records, ships scrapped.


90 posted on 04/09/2010 3:19:54 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

and about time. He was smooth. He came to FR and posted on topics that weren’t controversial, slowly moved up and tried to fly below the radar but he just wasn’t cut out for the job. Too radical, he couldn’t control himself. He was on my watch list for a while but recently it was obvious.


91 posted on 04/09/2010 3:19:58 PM PDT by mojitojoe (I don't care what you passed. you are irrelevant. I'll NEVER comply in any way. Read my lips, NEVER!)
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To: LucyT
This entire saga is like a puzzle with many of the pieces missing and pieces of another puzzle in the box as well. I think some of the things we have come to accept were probably concocted lies. I wonder if the story of her being in Seattle were even true. We have one woman's story. That's it. How do we know what she said was even true. I wonder if she has a nice deposit in her bank around the time she told that story.

I'm about ready to throw out any stories, any hearsay and start concentrating more on the facts. More and more facts, hard evidence are emerging. They can't dispute those.

92 posted on 04/09/2010 3:24:08 PM PDT by mojitojoe (I don't care what you passed. you are irrelevant. I'll NEVER comply in any way. Read my lips, NEVER!)
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To: Terabitten

We know SAD was in Seattle just a few weeks after Barry’s birth...and interestingly she didn’t know how to change the baby’s diapers.
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We don’t KNOW that. We KNOW that is what was said. Anyone can say anything, it doesn’t make it a fact.


93 posted on 04/09/2010 3:25:21 PM PDT by mojitojoe (I don't care what you passed. you are irrelevant. I'll NEVER comply in any way. Read my lips, NEVER!)
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To: David

I hope that proof of that is coming together soon. Just in time for the 2010 elections. :)


94 posted on 04/09/2010 3:26:50 PM PDT by mojitojoe (I don't care what you passed. you are irrelevant. I'll NEVER comply in any way. Read my lips, NEVER!)
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To: David

I thought it was easy to just cross the border into the US at that time. Was senior with her then? Or did never go... or did he stay in Kenya?


95 posted on 04/09/2010 3:28:31 PM PDT by mojitojoe (I don't care what you passed. you are irrelevant. I'll NEVER comply in any way. Read my lips, NEVER!)
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To: Red Steel

obumpa


96 posted on 04/09/2010 3:34:39 PM PDT by Dajjal (Justice Robert Jackson was wrong -- the Constitution IS a suicide pact.)
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To: Fred Nerks

Damn, you guys are good. LOL.


97 posted on 04/09/2010 3:36:05 PM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: mojitojoe; LucyT; butterdezillion

“...Was senior with her then? Or did never go... or did he stay in Kenya?”

Where did that idea come from, that O Senior accompanied SAD to Kenya? Or that SHE ever left the mainland? OR that she was EVER in Hawaii?

I will believe she was enrolled at the University in Hawaii when I see A VERIFIED, NOTORIZED TRANSCRIPT of her attendance record.

That letter confirming she was enrolled in September 1960 assumes that ANN OBAMA who lived at the birth announcement address, renting the bungalow behind the Dunham’s rented residence, was Stanley Ann Dunham.

What would be the result if an attendance record (NOT TAMPERED WITH!) was to show it was ANN OR ANNA OBAMA who commenced at the University in Hawaii in September 1960?


98 posted on 04/09/2010 3:46:48 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Smokeyblue

Don’t believe everything you hear.


99 posted on 04/09/2010 3:54:50 PM PDT by mojitojoe (I don't care what you passed. you are irrelevant. I'll NEVER comply in any way. Read my lips, NEVER!)
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To: little jeremiah

There is a reason why a Priest, or Clergy, or Pastor says the words “ by the power that has been vested in me “ ....


100 posted on 04/09/2010 4:04:36 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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