Posted on 04/08/2010 2:32:54 PM PDT by iowamark
I guess you would want to know more about it sense you seem to be lacking!
Please don’t spoil, it is very confusing!
Could you like number the restornu, so I could keep track on who is posting?
Thanks.
Is that picture from your collection of naked pre-pubescent males?
I am glad you are entertaining me but I am the only one that post on my computer unless it is Foxie but he has paws so...
It appears that you don't care to answer my questions...history DOES stand on its merit, and the racist history of the mormon church is out there for everyone to see.
I feel sorry that you appear to cling to the fallacies you have been taught.
That a little black boy could not dream, that a black man could not serve.
Mitt Romney had a position that a man with black skin could not serve in, is my understanding
That a little black boy could not dream, that a black man could not serve.
Mitt Romney had a position that a man with black skin could not serve in, is my understanding
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That is really a strange storie you are telling there!
BTW Romney was Bishop between 1982-1985
Excerpt
For three years, from 1982 to 1985, Mr. Romney served as the bishop, or lay pastor, at his church in Belmont, Mass. After that, he served nine years as “stake” president, overseeing about a dozen Boston-area parishes. But it was his time as bishop that gave him the most contact with everyday churchgoers. He organized weekly church services and ministered to parishioners, offering spiritual guidance on whatever problems they brought to him – financial, marital, physical, anything. He heard confessions of sin and determined who is allowed to enter a Mormon temple, a privilege reserved for those who meet the church’s high standards of personal conduct. He distributed church funds to those in need.
Romney’s church work was voluntary – Mormon congregations have no paid clergy – but the time commitment was intense, even as he built a high-flying career in his “day job,” first in management consulting and then private-equity investment.
Being a bishop is “a very weighty responsibility, which you take with a great deal of care and sobriety,” Romney said in a Monitor interview.
He says the experience taught him that, despite the sea of happy faces he saw each week at church, everybody faces hardships. That lesson is just as vibrant for him now, as a presidential candidate, traveling the country and addressing crowds.
“As I sat in that room today and met with all those people, I know that almost everyone there, smiling and cheerful as they are, has some real challenges,” Romney said, speaking of the 100 or so voters he had just addressed at an event in Ottumwa, Iowa. “They’re hoping that collectively we can help one another, and that’s something I very much hope I can do if I’m elected.”
http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0809/p01s01-uspo.html
What is “strange” about this “story”, concerning the racism of the Mormon religion until mid 1978?
“That a little black boy could not dream, that a black man could not serve.
Mitt Romney had a position that a man with black skin could not serve in, is my understanding”
Are you saying that it is not accurate?
Do your chickens have large talons?
Just what do you mean by IDEOLOGY? Is that some kind of hair pomade?!)And YOU, of all people, FAULT her for thia?
SHEESH!
"You see some classes of the human family that are black, uncouth, uncomely, disagreeable and low in their habits, wild, and seemingly deprived of nearly all the blessings of the intelligence that is generally bestowed upon mankind.
The first man that committed the odious crime of killing one of his brethren will be cursed the longest of any one of the children of Adam. Cain slew his brother. Cain might have been killed, and that would have put a termination to that line of human beings.
This was not to be, and the Lord put a mark upon him, which is the flat nose and black skin. Trace mankind down to after the flood, and then another curse is pronounced upon the same race--that they should be the 'servant of servants', and they will be, until that curse is removed."
Brigham Young-President and second 'Prophet' of the Mormon Church, 1844-1877- Extract from Journal of Discourses.
Here are two examples from their 'other testament', the Book of Mormon.
2 Nephi 5: 21 'And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people, the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.'
Alma 3: 6 'And the skins of the Lamanites were dark, according to the mark which was set upon their fathers, which was a curse upon them because of their transgression and their rebellion against their brethren, who consisted of Nephi, Jacob and Joseph, and Sam, who were just and holy men.'
August 27, 1954 in an address at Brigham Young University (BYU), Mormon Elder, Mark E Peterson, in speaking to a convention of teachers of religion at the college level, said: "He is not just seeking the opportunity of sitting down in a cafe where white people eat. He isn't just trying to ride on the same streetcar or the same Pullman car with white people. It isn't that he just desires to go to the same theater as the white people. From this, and other interviews I have read, it appears that the Negro seeks absorption with the white race. He will not be satisfied until he achieves it by intermarriage." "That is his objective and we must face it. We must not allow our feelings to carry us away, nor must we feel so sorry for Negroes that we will open our arms and embrace them with everything we have. Remember the little statement that we used to say about sin, 'First we pity, then endure, then embrace'...." (Rosa Parks would have probably told Petersen under which wheel of the bus he should go sit.)
1967, (then) Mormon President Ezra Taft Benson "The Communist program for revolution in America has been in progress for many years and is far advanced. First of all, we must not place the blame upon Negroes. They are merely the unfortunate group that has been selected by professional Communist agitators to be used as the primary source of cannon fodder."
We are told that on June 8, 1978, it was 'revealed' to the then president, Spencer Kimball, that people of color could now gain entry into the priesthood. According to the church, Kimball spent many long hours petitioning God, begging him to give worthy black people the priesthood. God finally relented.
"The discussion on civil rights, especially over the last 20 years, has drawn some very sharp lines. It has blinded the thinking of some of our own people, I believe. They have allowed their political affiliations to color their thinking to some extent.I think I have read enough to give you an idea of what the Negro is after."
said,
Sometime before the 'revelation' came to chief 'Prophet' Spencer Kimball in June 1978, General Authority, Bruce R McConkie had said:
"The Blacks are denied the Priesthood; under no circumstances can they hold this delegation of authority from the Almighty.
The Negroes are not equal with other races where the receipt of certain blessings are concerned, particularly the priesthood and the temple blessings that flow there from, but this inequality is not of man's origin, it is the Lord's doings."
(Mormon Doctrine, pp. 526-527).
When Mormon 'Apostle' Mark E Petersen spoke on 'Race Problems- As they affect the Church' at the BYU campus in 1954, the following was also said:
"...if the negro accepts the gospel with real, sincere faith, and is really converted, to give him the blessings of baptism and the gift of the Holy Ghost, he can and will enter the celestial kingdom. He will go there as a servant, but he will get celestial glory."
When Mormon 'Prophet' and second President of the Church, Brigham Young, spoke in 1863 the following was also said:
"Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God is death on the spot. This will always be so."
(Journal of Discourses, Vo. 10, p. 110)
Why don’t you KNOW what JS learned to be UNTRUE about PRESBYTERIANism?
“That a little black boy could not dream, that a black man could not serve.
Mitt Romney had a position that a man with black skin could not serve in, is my understanding”
Are you saying that it is not accurate?
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I am trying to figure out how one person (Romney) out of million of members is single out?
If someone is a false prophet are they always hounded by every time they talk they because they are a false prophet?
The answer to the latter is YES!
And all those who FOLLOW the TEACHINGs of the False Prohet will be HOUNDED.
They are trying to advance HERESY and every spiritual weapon WILL be used against them.
Deal with it!
Strawgrasper
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