President Obama Needs to Prove His Constitutional Eligibility to Be Commander-in-Chief

American Thinker ^ | April 08, 2010 | Terrence Lakin, MD

[AnalogReigns]

The legality of orders all depends on the a constitutional presidency. An officer (or enlisted) can choose to disobey orders they believe are unconstitional—PROVIDED, they are prepared to take the consequences—meaning that they can prove their case.

The LTC is not saying he is the (sole) constitutional judge, rather he is putting the issue (and himself and his career) up to the legal system—which is, constitutionally, the legal judge of constitutionality....if and when some judge there has the gonads to take responsibility.

Already a reserve officer did the same thing—refused orders claiming Obama is unconstitutionally qualified...and the Army backed down, and rescinded his orders—making the case moot. I’ve never EVER heard of that before, even in the Vietnam era, and it really makes one wonder.

Obama has spent something like 1.5 million dollars to prevent a $10 document from being revealed—and you think its much ado about nothing?

[Artemis Webb]

I never said it is “much ado about nothing”. Those are your words and are not mine or my sentiment.

[verity]

I condemn Obama and I condemn Lakin. I also condemn you for not having having an understanding of Duty, Honor, Country. Obviously, you have no one in your family who served in a military capacity.

[vaudine]

"about on a par with a none- too- bright high school student."

In actual fact, I once taught a high track of 8th graders who could think, articulate, and write circles around this perennial sophomore.

vaudine

[Kenny Bunk]

By his actions, the Colonel is actually requesting a Court Martial in order to establish whether or not his orders are legal for an American officer to obey.

The tactic is bold. However, I believe it offers the other team too many opportunities to skirt the main issue. E.G., the Colonel can simply be relieved of duty, putting paid to the whole affair. Many other, much more drastic steps can be taken against him, long before any Court Martial convenes. If and when it does, (a long shot) I am reasonably certain a request to the Attorney General of the State of Hawaii for the documentation will NOT be made.I.E., the case will be contested on very limited, strictly military terms.

This Obama has thrown us into a Constitutional Crisis, which I personally believe can only be resolved after he leaves office at the end of his term. We have lived through a skillfully managed anti-constitutional Coup which has been temporarily successful.

It is like finding a known but undisclosed defect in a house, after title has passed; a defect which should have been discovered and reported by your real estate agent before closing. Due Diligence on Obama was not performed. We can recover. But not as quickly as one might wish. I know many a good real estate case that is older than a four-year Presidential term.

[proud American in Canada]

One of the most impassioned speeches I have ever heard was from a Lieutenant Colonel who was redeploying from Iraq to his home station. I sat in awe as he explained that the US military is the only military in the world that swears an oath not to a person or country but an idea articulated in the document that is the US Constitution. They pledge their very lives to the defense of that idea.

Bttt! That must have been an amazing speech.

[dennisw]

Obama’s father being a Kenyan and British subject.

This should have been brought up before the election. His candidacy should have been challenged. There is not enough “natural born citizen” precedent for the Supreme Court to dethrone the sitting president 0bama. But I have no problem with anyone challenging 0bama’s eligibility on any basis and also demanding the full original birth certificate. I hope it pans out.

[Artemis Webb]

Too well thought out.
Too good of an analogy.
You’re obviously a troll. :)

[conservativegramma]

You support Obama by your actions, sorry, your lies won't fly and I told you I would continue to call you on it.

Prove you condemn Obama by writing to him personally and asking why he refuses to do the moral obligation to his troops by proving his eligibility.

I have more understanding of duty, honor, and country than you do. I refuse to usurp the constitution. You'll do whatever it takes to commit to your liberal agenda - the constitution be da****.

And again you're wrong by suggesting I've never had family who served in any military capacity. You seem to have a penchant for being wrong 99.9% of the time.

Let me disabuse you of that notion. My own father was a U.S. Marine who supports Lt. Col. Lakin and has said were he still active duty he would join his case. My Uncle was a U.S. Marine who served on the Tinian Islands in W.W. 2 loading the Enola Gay with 'the bomb'. Were he still alive I can assure you he would agree with my father.

I have ancestors who have fought in every single war this nation has engaged in since the French and Indian war in the 18th century and I have no less than a dozen ancestors who founded this nation by fighting in the Revolutionary War against tyranny from Valley Forge to the Battle of Charleston. A tyranny not even as severe as what we are now enduring under Obama I might add. So again, don't go where you know absolutely nothing.

If you truly knew about military duty you would know that it is the duty and right of every officer who has questions about the legality of superior orders to use the courtroom for redress if necessary.

And yes I still condemn you for harping about duty, honor, and country while supporting the treasonous activities of an illegitimate CIC.

[verity]

How are things at Code Pink?

[conservativegramma]

You should know.

[verity]

I'll return later to continue insulting you. LMAO.

In the interim, you are free to annoy other people.

[panthermom]

I don’t. Natural born citizen.........2 parents, citizens, born in the United States of America.

[panthermom]

And when it comes out that he is NOT NBC.....every Soldier, Marine and Airman, can and would be brought up on charges in an international court. Every death of a terrorists from Jan.2010 is murder.

[conservativegramma]

That’s fine. Continue to get your jollies mocking patriotic Americans, your day is coming.

[conservativegramma]

Excellent point. This is precisely why every Soldier, Marine, Airman, and officer should be joining Lt. Col. Lakin’s case!

[panthermom]

Well I have family that has served, is currently serving and a son that is leaving on April 26th for Fort Benning, Infantry. I have told him, your oath is to the Constitution, just like his relatives have that have and are serving told him! In fact they tried to talk him out of joining while Obama is President, however, it is something he has always wanted.....so we will live with it!

Have you had a relative deploy under Obama? I have and it is a sick feeling.

[rxsid]

How can a USURPER command our armed forces?
How can a USURPER sign any treaties with foreign governments?
How can a USURPER sign anything into law, let alone the health care monstrosity?

HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN?

 

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate.html

Factcheck.org goes on to say this about Obama Sr., Jr. and the British Nationality Act of 1948:

In other words, at the time of his birth, Barack Obama Jr. was both a U.S. citizen (by virtue of being born in Hawaii) and a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies (or the UKC) by virtue of being born to a father who was a citizen of the UKC.

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/does_barack_obama_have_kenyan_citizenship.html

 

Even the modern day State Department rules discusses the problems associated with dual citizenship:

7 FAM 081: U.S. Policy on Dual Nationality:

(e)While recognizing the existence of dual nationality, the U.S. Government does not encourage it as a matter of policy because of the problems it may cause. Dual nationality may hamper efforts by the U.S. Government to provide diplomatic and consular protection to individuals overseas. When a U.S. citizen is in the other country of their dual nationality, that country has a predominant claim on the person.

...

the U.S. Supreme Court has stated that dual nationality is a "status long recognized in the law" and that "a person may have and exercise rights of nationality in two countries and be subject to the responsibilities of both." See Kawakita v. United States, 343 U.S. 717 (1952).

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/86563.pdf

So, back to the question: "HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN?"
It can't. Of course not. Yet, right there, on his campaign web site F.T.S., it's stated that a foreign government "governed" Barry from birth and the reason it did, was that Barry inherited that foreign citizenship by way of his foreign national father (no matter where he was born), a fact backed up by Factcheck.org. Assuming, of course, that Sr. was his legal father at birth.
How, then, could he possibly be a "Natural Born Citizen" of the U.S.?
Barry Soetoro, the divided citizen at birth!

http://www.jeffersonsrebels.blogspot.com

 

Furthermore:  Hawaii's Territorial Law, Chapter 57 - "VITAL STATISTICS, I", shown beginning pg 23 of 29, (the law in effect in 1961) allowed baby's born anywhere in the world to be eligible to apply for a Hawaiian birth certificate based on the word of 1 relative.

Bottom line: Even IF (big IF) he was born in HI, he inherited his father's foreign citizenship as well, making him a US citizen by US law and the subject of the crown of her majesty the Queen of England by inheritance and England's law. He could not be considered a Natural Born Citizen as known by and as intended by the framers.

[conservativegramma]

Prayers up for your son mom! God bless.

[panthermom]

For the life of me I do not understand why it is sooooo hard to understand that NBC means 2 citizen parents=NBC!!!!