How stupid do they think we are? It's frustrating to picture these guys in the Whitehouse laughing at how dumb they think we are. Can't wait for November.
To: geniusbyosmosis
Once you price CO2 and put a price on it, you find, as you would with any other product, it tends to be rationed. We as a people on this planet have lived under the false concept that air and water were free. And weve learned with a planet of 7 billion people, that we have to ration these precious goods. And the good old price system is the best way to do it.
Richard Sandor, father of the carbon market.
2 posted on
04/07/2010 8:52:11 AM PDT by
cripplecreek
(Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
To: geniusbyosmosis
Take a look at my handle. Politically and economically this is stupid.
Personally, wave a wad of greenbacks in front of my face and I’ll play any tune the dancers want.
That’s what cap and trade is all about.
More money. For me.
Or, really, anybody who can get to the trough in time.
4 posted on
04/07/2010 8:59:04 AM PDT by
VaFarmer
To: geniusbyosmosis
Anything that is derived from that world hoax - global warming - is a farce and a con game, and should be outlawed as treason against the economy and freedom of the United States.
If the rest of these idiot countries want to wallow in that crap - if they are stupid enough to fall for it - then so be it, but leave us alone.

6 posted on
04/07/2010 9:28:08 AM PDT by
FrankR
(Those of us who love AMERICA far outnumber those who love obama - your choice.)
To: geniusbyosmosis
where exactly do these dreamers think we can plant massive areas of trees sufficient to ‘reforest our land’ and offset the dangers they envision?
There is a climatological reason why the great Midwestern plains were called the Great American Desert and were treeless except in well-watered areas like river bottoms.
Putting these plains to the plow can be argued, but ‘reforesting’ is not an option.
7 posted on
04/07/2010 9:35:58 AM PDT by
wildbill
(You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
To: geniusbyosmosis; Nervous Tick; Amagi; Beowulf; Tunehead54; Clive; Fractal Trader; tubebender; ...
8 posted on
04/07/2010 9:39:01 AM PDT by
steelyourfaith
(Warmists as "traffic light" apocalyptics: "Greens too yellow to admit they're really Reds."-Monckton)
To: geniusbyosmosis
This is another of Obama’s initiatives that I don’t understand and am skeptical of how it would be implemented. In this case it’s all about tweaking the knobs. A very mild, limited, first step might be fine with me if he explained how it would not harm our recovery, since right now we don’t need to be doing ‘green’ things that will hinder the recovery.
With Obama’s track record I fear where he will set the knobs.
10 posted on
04/07/2010 9:59:29 AM PDT by
frposty
(I'm a simpleton)
To: geniusbyosmosis; All
This may not contribute to the thread, but I have been seriously thinking of planting seeds from my Douglas Fir(beautiful trees, a logger I know calls them "species' trees as they're up to about 180 feet tall and straight as an arrow), have some huge, straight red cedars that's pollenating now, and a Blue Spruce that is packed with seed right now.
I used to plant the Spruces at a previous house for ornamental value - 1 every Christmas, and usually paid about $50 for a 3' tree from the nursery. Anything bigger, and it'd be $75, and that was over 10 years ago.
I could utilize about 2/3 acre for the tree farm in a spot that wouldn't get shaded out or change the character of my residence.
If anyone has any experience or a handy link or two on growing trees (quickly), I'd be much obliged.
Things are pretty tight in this nw corner of the NW, with businesses closing weekly. If some city dweller wants to flaunt their GW tree hugging credentials, who I am not to make a buck off him?
11 posted on
04/07/2010 10:10:22 AM PDT by
4woodenboats
(Defend America peacefully, vigorously, and swiftly against all enemies before she becomes a memory)
To: geniusbyosmosis
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