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Where the Tea Partiers Should Go From Here (by Karl Rove in the WSJ)
Wall Street Journal ^ | Apr. 1, 2010 | Karl Rove

Posted on 04/04/2010 1:29:56 PM PDT by SmartInsight

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To: DaxtonBrown

So what?

You confuse the success of the handlers with the results of the people they get elected.


21 posted on 04/04/2010 1:52:56 PM PDT by misterrob (Have you tea bagged a liberal today?)
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To: SmartInsight

Exactly.
He is worth listening to.
He is brilliant.


22 posted on 04/04/2010 1:53:44 PM PDT by JaneNC (I)
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To: SmartInsight

Completely correct. You truly are smart and insightful.

Conservatives need to become strategic. Liberals are smart at politics and immaturely destructive at policy. Conservatives often are exactly the reverse.

We need to be smart at politics and our policy will win.


23 posted on 04/04/2010 1:53:46 PM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: SmartInsight
Ideologues get their asses kicked at chess and most other strategy games.
24 posted on 04/04/2010 1:54:21 PM PDT by misterrob (Have you tea bagged a liberal today?)
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To: Balding_Eagle

“Show the proof that the usurper was born in U.S.”

“Those are words a troll would use in this kind of situation in order to try and misdirect our energy.

It won’t work.”

You are exactly right — that would just allow the Dems to marginalize the tea party movement. We need to stay focused.


25 posted on 04/04/2010 1:54:34 PM PDT by SmartInsight
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To: 1010RD

And learn to embrace the modern age when it comes to technology and message


26 posted on 04/04/2010 1:55:00 PM PDT by misterrob (Have you tea bagged a liberal today?)
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To: SmartInsight

However one may feel about this or that about Rove, listen for good ideas and discard those that we don’t agree with. Babies...bathwater...all that sort of thing.


27 posted on 04/04/2010 1:55:06 PM PDT by Bahbah (Only dead fish go with the flow)
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To: SmartInsight
Karl Rove helped GW Bush get elested twice in very tight elections. He knows how to win elections. He wants the Obama-mchine defeated, it would serve well for people to listen to him.

You're right, but as others have pointed out, we also have to do a bunch of stuff that Rove wouldn't think of. We have to be braver than he is.

28 posted on 04/04/2010 1:56:01 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries of the American Farmer each and every year..)
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To: SmartInsight
I luv Karl, but he was part of the problem in the Bush Administration.

He needs to be recommending these two books:


29 posted on 04/04/2010 1:57:56 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: SmartInsight

Correct in very many ways.
BUT Carl Rove is NO conservative.
He will work for RINO’s as he did for G.W.

I have a problem with Rove and the others within the Bush Administration.
Seems they got him elected and then failed to push any of the conservative agenda. And spent money like it was salt water.


30 posted on 04/04/2010 1:58:43 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (Just say NO to RINOs. (FUBO))
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To: DaxtonBrown
So does Axelrod and Rahm

Good one.

31 posted on 04/04/2010 1:59:30 PM PDT by Maceman
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To: Balding_Eagle

troll this! how can anyone connect truthers with birthers?? There is all kind of proof how the towers came down, where is the obama proof that he is a natural born citizen? The commies went after mccain and he showed his long form certificate, again, where is proof from obama? who is rove to tell peeps that want the same proof from obama as mccain, to shut up???


32 posted on 04/04/2010 2:00:15 PM PDT by biggredd1
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To: choctaw man

Exactly. Rove disgusts me and it partly responsible for why we have obama in the first place.

Screw him and the rest of the damn rinos.


33 posted on 04/04/2010 2:02:46 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote
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To: SmartInsight
What Rove, and many other self-appointed "TEA party advisors" don't yet get is, the only guidelines the TEA party movement needs are in the Constitution of the United States of America, and in the Holy Bible.

The difference in this upcoming election is, it's not going to be a "carl rove" election...it's not going to be a squeaker...if the momentum keeps building, it will be a landslide.

Every time the current administration opens their mouth, and every time Congress stuffs more garbage down our throats, the TEA party movement grows...it's already estimated that 13% of the TEA party movement, are democrats.

Rove and the RINO's have an agenda...they want to co-opt the TEA party movement and claim them for their own; if we stay smart, that will not happen.

We walk a fine line between picking conservative, Constitution supporting candidates, but NOT condoning a third party. This is pissing off the Libertarians, but the Constitution makes no provisions for open borders and legalized pot...so be it.

The way the left is shaking in their boots and attacking the TEA party movement with everything they've got, it's apparent that they are a lot more afraid of the TEA partiers than they are of the GOP.

The GOP, meanwhile, has one foot nailed to the floor and it's causing them to walk around in circles...the "nail" is made of "Steele".

The "of the people, for the people, and by the people" people - a.k.a. the TEA party movement are tired of the graft, corruption, intimidation, back room deals, pork barrel spending, etc., etc., etc.

We've heard politicians rail against all these, and promise to fix them for years, but our trust has been betrayed time and time again...so it's time for the adults to step in and fix it...that's what the TEA party movement is about.

So, Mr. Rove, stop trying to micro-manage a political party, because we are NOT a political PARTY, we're a movement having a party to oust the corrupted regime from D.C. because we are Taxed Enough Already.



Tea Haters



34 posted on 04/04/2010 2:03:33 PM PDT by FrankR (Those of us who love AMERICA far outnumber those who love obama - your choice.)
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To: SmartInsight

Lighten up, Francis... and realize that THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ROMNEYCARE AND OBAMACARE, MCCAIN/GRAHAM AMNESTY AND PELOSI/REID AMNESTY, OR BUSH/CHENEY OVERSPENDING AND PELOSI/REID OVERSPENDING.

RINO ineptitude, weakness, apathy, gutlessness and the like is the slow boat to socialism. The only difference with being on the Socialism Express is that the democrat party is at the wheel when the bus goes over the cliff, rather than the republicans.

I voted for Bush twice as well as for McCain, against my better judgement. Want to point fingers? The “compassionate conservative” republicans gave us the current administration. Keep supporting them, and you’ll get more of the same.


35 posted on 04/04/2010 2:04:04 PM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? YOU ARE A SOCIALIST WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
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To: 1010RD

Thank you.

Another thing for non-compromising conservatives to consider is that all they accomplished by not supporting the GOP is to get Dems elected, time and time again.

Einstein said that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

It’s time for conservatives to change strategy and focus on getting rid of the enemies of the country and freedom, the Democrats.

In the words of the great President Reagan, on the art of compromise:

“When I began entering into the give and take of legislative bargaining in Sacramento, a lot of the most radical conservatives who had supported me during the election didn’t like it.

“Compromise” was a dirty word to them and they wouldn’t face the fact that we couldn’t get all of what we wanted today. They wanted all or nothing and they wanted it all at once. If you don’t get it all, some said, don’t take anything.

“I’d learned while negotiating union contracts that you seldom got everything you asked for. And I agreed with FDR, who said in 1933: ‘I have no expectations of making a hit every time I come to bat. What I seek is the highest possible batting average.’

“If you got seventy-five or eighty percent of what you were asking for, I say, you take it and fight for the rest later, and that’s what I told these radical conservatives who never got used to it.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/960104/posts


36 posted on 04/04/2010 2:04:51 PM PDT by SmartInsight (Bad officials are elected by good citizens who do not vote. ~ G. J. Nathan)
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To: SmartInsight

If folks want more of the same old RINO establishment always-ultimately-left-leading nonsense, go ahead and listen to Rove.


37 posted on 04/04/2010 2:04:55 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Without God in the equation, no sums add up.)
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To: Joe Boucher

We can thank them for the idiot now residing in the White Houise!


38 posted on 04/04/2010 2:05:57 PM PDT by ohiogrammy (12)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Rove also recommended a couple of good plans, one in the Heritage foundation, one by Paul Ryan ( I gave links to both in my 1st post).

Karl Rove’s poits are just something to consider, they are not the end-all, nor does he claim that.


39 posted on 04/04/2010 2:06:52 PM PDT by SmartInsight (Bad officials are elected by good citizens who do not vote. ~ G. J. Nathan)
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To: JaneNC

He was brilliant in growing the govt and sticking it to base 90 percent of the time.

No thanks. Karl can and should go away.


40 posted on 04/04/2010 2:07:44 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote
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