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Sad, frankly. The rest of the world will still be packing sardines, yet the regulatory commie a**holes have killed off our domestic industry.
1 posted on 04/03/2010 9:14:00 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

I usually eat King Oscar sardines. I didn’t know a U.S. sardine plant even existed.


2 posted on 04/03/2010 9:15:44 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Islam is incompatible with American traditions and values)
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They are paid by the number of cans they pack and can earn up to $18 or $19 an hour.

Not for union workers.

5 posted on 04/03/2010 9:20:06 PM PDT by onyx (Facts don't matter. Proof not required. Anything goes! Racial slurs, death threats.....)
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I wasn’t aware that one could even get US sardines anymore.

Does Canada still can them?


6 posted on 04/03/2010 9:20:23 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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Sad, frankly. The rest of the world will still be packing sardines, yet the regulatory commie a**holes have killed off our domestic industry.

It sure seems that way.

8 posted on 04/03/2010 9:23:12 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (Had God not driven man from the Garden of Eden the Sierra Club surely would have.)
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I visited Maine sardine canneries on two occasions. Fascinating places. They told us how they packed sardines for 40 different labels. One of them also packed larger herring


9 posted on 04/03/2010 9:25:17 PM PDT by dennisw (It all comes 'round again --Fairport)
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You were saying ...

Sad, frankly. The rest of the world will still be packing sardines, yet the regulatory commie a**holes have killed off our domestic industry.

I'm not sure if it was a regulatory agency that killed off the sardine industry... it seems like it was overfishing and the actual dwindling of fish stocks that did it...

The following is a section of an article about California and sardines (although the above article is about Maine). Take a look at that graph of fishstocks... it doesn't look good.

The article is titled ...

The little fish that we can: California’s sardine industry, now and then

Sardines then

In the mid-20th century, the sardine fishery off the Monterey coast seemed bottomless, resulting in a network of canneries along the waterfront (Cannery Row, a place made famous by the John Steinbeck novel of the same name, and now a top tourist destination of Monterey). At their peak, they processed millions of pounds of fish each year while providing jobs to thousands*. In the 1940s, the Pacific coast sardine catch accounted for around 25% of the total seafood catch in the U.S., making it a key part of the war effort. But it was not to last. By the mid-1940s, the fish were gone, the canneries closing, as the chart below shows (it is from another post on sardines at Mental Masala). The current thinking is that a combination of overfishing, pollution, and the natural cycle of the sardine contributed to the rapid decline in the late 1940s.


11 posted on 04/03/2010 9:28:12 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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had sardines and crackers for lunch - with glass-full of cranraspberry.

I like the little ones too = but the bigger ones, mashed, taste the same - and a lot cheaper. I hate the thoughts of another industry gone from Maine. The shoe factories are gone. The chicken industry went south - DOWN south.

If the lobsters. clams and mussels go - I'm running away/

13 posted on 04/03/2010 9:37:03 PM PDT by maine-iac7
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No more sardines, pandy. America is dying.


14 posted on 04/03/2010 9:42:20 PM PDT by TigersEye (Duncan Hunter, Jim DeMint, Michelle Bachman, ...)
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I was looking more at the California situation and if a regulatory agency were limiting the amount of the catch for sardines... then it would seem that the sardine "availability" should be quite large now, but it doesn't appear to be that way. It seems that they virtually disappeared.

This was just one snippet from a much larger paper...

After 50 years of fishing for the Pacific sardine, Sardinops sagax (Jenyns), a moratorium on landings was imposed by the California Legislature in 1967, thus bringing to an end yet another act of one of the more emotionally charged fisheries exploitation-conservation controversies of the 20th century.

By the time the moratorium was imposed, however, the sardine fishery in southern California had already collapsed. The sardine fisheries in the northwest had long since ceased to exist with sardines last landed in British Columbia in the 1947-1948 season, in Oregon and Washington in the 1948-1949 season, and in San Francisco Bay in the 1951-1952 season (Table 1).

Even before the productivity and exploitation of the fishery peaked, researchers from the (then) California Division of Fish and Game issued warnings that the commercial exploitation of the fishery could not increase without limits, and recommended that an annual sardine quota be established to keep the population from being overfished.

Such recommendations were, of course, opposed by the fishing industry which was able to identify scientists who would state, officially or otherwise, that it was virtually impossible to overfish a pelagic species. This debate permeated the philosophies, research activities, and conclusions of the scientists working in this field at that time. The debate conformed to the basic charters (or ruisons d‘trre) of each agency involved and persists today, long after the United States Pacific sardine fishery has ceased to exist. As a result of deep-rooted social and political feelings concerning the collapse of the Pacific sardine off California, many conflicting hypotheses have arisen, in spite of the completion of a vast amount of research.

from http://calcofi.ucsd.edu/newhome/publications/CalCOFI_Reports/v23/pdfs/Vol_23_Radovich.pdf

And again, I'm talking about some information from the West Coast, while this particular article above was about the East Coast. I haven't gotten over to the East Coast, yet ... :-)

15 posted on 04/03/2010 9:43:28 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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When the Marxist’s finally bring about the Great Crash in the USA then Americans will be starving, and unable to take care of themselves.


16 posted on 04/03/2010 9:43:41 PM PDT by Revel
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Great! No more capitalism. No more private enterprise in the US. No more evil greed and profit. Isn't that what everyone voted for in '08?
19 posted on 04/03/2010 9:46:43 PM PDT by EDINVA
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When I lived in San Diego, the LDS church ran a tuna cannery. The wards in the region signed up for assignments to work there. I've worked the line doing the fillet operation to strip the meat from the whole fish. On another evening, I ran the canning machine itself. We canned 4,000 cans that night. My wife was keeping the huge vat of spring water with spices going that was used to fill each can.

The tuna fleet left San Diego. Shortly after, we lost our source of tuna for the cannery. It was converted into a dry goods canning facility.

20 posted on 04/03/2010 9:46:55 PM PDT by Myrddin
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When Obamacare starts in full swing they’ll be back employed placing handfuls of greenish food product into little ‘soylent green’ tins.

And, as one commenter said earlier, the larger ones mashed taste just like the smaller ones.


21 posted on 04/03/2010 9:47:35 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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You know....I’ve eaten a sardine in my life. Not really sure why, either. I’m not averse to canned fish or strong tasting fishes - heck, I eat anchovies, and I figure a sardine’s gotta be milder than that.

My one grandpa loved ‘em, though (sardines). He especially liked the kind that came packed in mustard.


42 posted on 04/03/2010 11:13:51 PM PDT by DemforBush (Somebody wake me when sanity has returned to the nation.)
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A cupboard full of canned sardines and a few 50# sacks of rice - both quite cheap - will feed a family a good long while when TSHTF. Stock up!

Canned mackeral are actually tastier IMO, and 30-50# boxes of Japanese or Korean Soba noodles from the local Oriental supermarket are a tasty substitute for the rice if that gets old.


43 posted on 04/03/2010 11:15:40 PM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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After century of business, former Stinson seafood plant closing [Maine sardines]

Several good links for photos above. Prospect Harbor folk are hearty, but this has been tough.

46 posted on 04/04/2010 2:15:34 AM PDT by Daffynition ( In the span of one man's lifetime, only the individual has any potential - not the collective.)
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Bumble Bee Foods, which has owned the plant here since 2004, attributed the closing to federal regulations that have reduced the amount of Atlantic herring, sardines before processing, that can be hauled from the sea.

It's not called The Great Dempression for nothing.

48 posted on 04/04/2010 4:52:53 AM PDT by Tribune7 (Only stupid, racists people support Obama.)
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As I have been saying, soon a sociality security check for one month will be moer than the gnp.

They cannot continue violating economic laws and principles with impunity.

As long as there is one idiot and one parasite that votes, there will always be a Democrat politician.

As long as there is a Republican Party and Democrat Party, the Democrat will rule, regardless of the Numbers of Democrats vs. Republicans.


49 posted on 04/04/2010 5:11:21 AM PDT by sport
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