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To: neverdem

They just need longer barreled m16s with scope. The 556 nato round is just fine. Little more accuracy, little more velocity...that’s all that’s needed.

I’ve been saying for years they need to ditch brass cases and upgrade to high strength aluminum alloy cases and then boost up chamber pressures.

Then upgrade the recoil system with an oil filled system for really smooth shooting. Better compensators on the end of the muzzle would help too.

Bigger bullets is the wrong way to go, imo. More speed is the best solution.

BTW, 556 shoots further than 762. This article is not entirely honest.


31 posted on 04/03/2010 1:34:14 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: mamelukesabre

Mass on target when it gets there....


64 posted on 04/03/2010 2:15:56 PM PDT by Gaffer ("Profling: The only profile I need is a chalk outline around their dead ass!")
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To: mamelukesabre
They just need longer barreled m16s with scope. The 556 nato round is just fine. Little more accuracy, little more velocity...that’s all that’s needed.

The 62 grain 5.56 bullet has a muzzle energy of 1323 ft/lbs, but at 500 yards that has shrunk to 368.

The 147 grain 7.62 NATO starts out at 2582 at 500 yards still has 1071 ft/lbs at 500 yards.

We need to dispense with the "one size fits all" mentality (and also with the ridiculous rules of engagement). US troops should be trained to be proficient with both 5.56 and 7.62 NATO.

70 posted on 04/03/2010 2:18:18 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: mamelukesabre

“I’ve been saying for years they need to ditch brass cases and upgrade to high strength aluminum alloy cases and then boost up chamber pressures.”

You really want to hit us reloaders where it hurts?

“Little more accuracy, little more velocity...that’s all that’s needed.”

Accuracy is fine. A heavier bullet is all that’s needed. Mk 262 Mod 1 has limited availability, but it’s very accurate to 600 yards. Chamber pressures already are above SAAMI maximums.

“BTW, 556 shoots further than 762. This article is not entirely honest.”

False, provided the “7.62” is 7.62x51 NATO.


72 posted on 04/03/2010 2:20:26 PM PDT by Favor Center (Targets Up! Hold hard and favor center!)
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To: mamelukesabre

Ffrthur but with less retained energy. The article is honest in it stated more hits less kills.
barbra ann


85 posted on 04/03/2010 2:41:12 PM PDT by barb-tex (Obama Care ls spending part of the Half trillion on Logans Merry-Go-Round)
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To: mamelukesabre
BS alert! Wind blows the 5.56 round all over the place, and beyond 300, the bullet loses too much steam to be massively damaging.

The reason Tubbs and Gallegher shoot the 5.56 is that these are service matches, requiring the use of a military service round.

The fact is, as someone pointed out up the line, the Mattie Mattel was another gift to the Leftists from Robert Macnamera. Riflemen shoot it because they have to, not because they want to.

The M-16 has gone through how many revisions, 4 or 5, and you want to do another? Odd how, for 50 years, the rifle never quite seems to do well, and one more "fix" will do the job...

Personal opinion: I was lucky enough to qualify with the M-14 in boot camp, and even over the years, with experience on the 16, FN, AK-47 and 74, the 14 was the best.

105 posted on 04/03/2010 3:24:25 PM PDT by jonascord (We've got the Constitution to protect us. Why should we worry?)
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To: mamelukesabre
"Bigger bullets is the wrong way to go, imo. More speed is the best solution."

You ain't going shooting with me.

124 posted on 04/03/2010 4:07:30 PM PDT by An Old Man
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