Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Karl Rove is no conservative, as his memoir shows (stating the obvious alert)
Washington Post ^ | April 4, 2009 | Craig Shirley and Donald Devine

Posted on 04/03/2010 9:14:23 AM PDT by Zakeet

From William F. Buckley Jr. to Barry Goldwater to Ronald Reagan, the creators of the modern conservative movement always taught that excessive concentration of power in government leads inevitably to corruption and the diminution of personal freedoms. But while Rove credits these leaders for shaping his early political views -- ... he did not pursue their values while in the White House. To the contrary, as the chief political architect of the Bush presidency, Rove was instrumental in directing an administration most notable for its enormous expansion of national government.

[Snip]

The truly unique aspects of Bush and Rove's compassionate conservatism were in the arenas of education and entitlements. The goals of Bush's No Child Left Behind education initiative were certainly worthy, but its trampling of states' rights sounded early alarms for traditional conservatives. And Bush's market-oriented proposals for Social Security reform notwithstanding, the Medicare prescription drug benefit the president signed into law in 2003 has created an unfunded liability of $9.4 trillion over the next 75 years, according to the 2009 report from the Medicare trustees. This is far beyond what the White House estimated would be saved with Social Security reform, and the first new major entitlement since the days of Lyndon Johnson.

[Snip]

In his memoir, Rove defends the Bush record as a truly conservative one. ... "Just look at his tax cuts, pro-life and pro-family stands; his support of free trade and reducing regulation; his belief that competition improves health care, the environment and Social Security; and his insistence on education results."

But the results speak otherwise. In total, Bush increased federal spending on domestic programs more than any president since Richard Nixon, easily surpassing Bill Clinton, Carter and his own father, so much so that by 2008, America had two big-government parties.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bookreview; bush; bush43; compassionaterinos; conservatism; conservatives; elections; hatchetjob; illegaliens; memoir; moderates; obama; progressivism; rino; rove; zotbait
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 next last
To: Zakeet

As I always used to tell my left-wing friends:

“I don’t know what you all are whining about. Bush is the best Democrat the Republicans ever elected!”


21 posted on 04/03/2010 10:13:47 AM PDT by Magnatron
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Republic of Texas
He’s a Republican. These days that just means socialism at a slower pace. - how very true!
22 posted on 04/03/2010 10:13:52 AM PDT by Free_at_last_-2001 (A country can survive its fools, but it cannot survive treason from within.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Zakeet

I really enjoyed listening to Rove’s recent interview with Rush Limbaugh. Rush did not interrupt or talk over Rove, kept all questions on point and focused, and in about 10 minutes I knew why we were left with nothing of the Reagan revolution at the end of the Bush-Clinton-Bush years of complacency.

The ‘architect’. Heh. More like the ‘arsonist’.


23 posted on 04/03/2010 10:19:00 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (What is a slave, but someone robbed of his labor to sustain the idle?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Zakeet

You mean to tell me the WAPO knows what a conservative is? They still do not get the tea pary movement.


24 posted on 04/03/2010 10:19:45 AM PDT by Parley Baer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Jim 0216

I think the first “neo-conservatives” were responsible for the Tower of Babel.


25 posted on 04/03/2010 10:21:16 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (What is a slave, but someone robbed of his labor to sustain the idle?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: AlanD

I agree with your sentiments, but would point out that Ford never, ever pretended to be a conservative.


26 posted on 04/03/2010 10:23:04 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (What is a slave, but someone robbed of his labor to sustain the idle?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: Zakeet
Karl Rove told a room full of reporters at a dinner a few years back that there was nothing that we could do about illegal immigration. We are where we are precisely because of people like Mr. Rove. The sooner he is tossed in the wastebin of history the better.
27 posted on 04/03/2010 10:23:27 AM PDT by SpaceBar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: AlanD
I remember all the Bushbots here always beating up on people who said we were going to be clobbered in 2006 and 2008, and then blaming people for not vigorously supporting their Rino’s with enough vigor and enthusiasm. This can still be seen in some threads. The message: “Rino candidates and spineless Republicans aren't the problem. Voters are.”

Republicans have to have a positive plan and mean it. The Roves of the world don't stand for anything but their own viability. He was a horrible adviser, and contributed to Bush being absolutely tone deaf. Like you said, neither of those elections should have been as close as they were, and Bush had next to zero credibility by the end of his presidency.

Hannity calls Rove, “the architect.” He's certainly that. He built this political outhouse we live in right now.

28 posted on 04/03/2010 10:26:18 AM PDT by Luke21
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: Zakeet

Rove’s next book should be about how he and W managed to move Republican’s from arguably their strongest position of power in anyone’s memory in 2004, to one of their weakest positions in memory by 2008.


29 posted on 04/03/2010 10:29:10 AM PDT by Will88
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Zakeet
In his memoir, Rove defends the Bush record as a truly conservative one. ... "Just look at his tax cuts, pro-life and pro-family stands; his support of free trade and reducing regulation; his belief that competition improves health care, the environment and Social Security; and his insistence on education results."

Rove thinks were all stupid and his used care salesman tricks still work.

They don't.

There was nothing conservative about:

1. Medicare Expansion
2. No Child Left Behind
3. The brazen attempt at Amnesty
4. His signing of the McCain-Feingold bill and passing his responsibility to the Supreme Court.
5. His total lack of fiscal responsibility.

There was no small-government approach to GWB or Rove.
30 posted on 04/03/2010 10:30:06 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Luke21

“Hannity calls Rove, “the architect.” He’s certainly that. He built this political outhouse we live in right now. “

Karl Rove is the “Architect”? Rove and GWB were a two man GOP Wrecking Crew. Some Architect. Tom Delay (dancing with the stars) was another one.


31 posted on 04/03/2010 10:31:12 AM PDT by AlanD
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: Luke21

You are completely right. Just about a year ago it was considered “heresy” to say anything critical about George W. Bush. Hannity and Limbaugh were also roped into the defend Bush club.

Fortunately, people are starting to wake up to what hit us in the last decade, and how we came to have a marxist in the White House now.


32 posted on 04/03/2010 10:33:13 AM PDT by AlanD
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: Zakeet
Statement: "Karl Rove is no conservative, as his memoir shows...."

Response: Probably true but one gives him a hearing anyway. We are not mind numbed robots; Mr. Rove's statements can be checked in most instances.

33 posted on 04/03/2010 10:40:54 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Jim 0216

Look up “Karl Rove Religion”. He was raised as a Mormon, but some say he is agnostic or atheist.


34 posted on 04/03/2010 10:43:19 AM PDT by huskerjim
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: AlanD

I remember before 2008 most of the folks around here loved Bush and Rove and if anyone dared to say the least little thing about the liberalism of Bush , you just about got ran out of this forum.....Just Saying. I thought free republic was a forum for rino's. Seriously...


35 posted on 04/03/2010 10:43:28 AM PDT by RED SOUTH
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: Guenevere

I don’t know, possibly some misguided perception somewhere.


36 posted on 04/03/2010 10:49:49 AM PDT by Jim W N
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Zakeet

I agree with the criticisms in the article, but am less sure that Karl gave them out of personal conviction than out of a belief that these actions would grow the GOP. For ex, we are all familiar with Karl’s belief that the GOP is the natural place for Hispanics because of their family values. He still believes this despite years of contrary election results.

My best guess is that Karl is more conservative personally than the advice he gave Dubya but thought some of these hare-brained ideas would bring more people into the GOP. I do enjoy his appearances on FOX.


37 posted on 04/03/2010 10:54:38 AM PDT by freespirited (I'm against a homogenized society because I want the cream to rise. --Robert Frost)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Zakeet

Karl Rove is a political tactitian. I’ve never heard him referred to as a conservative.


38 posted on 04/03/2010 11:12:42 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (John has a long mustache)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Jim 0216
The long knives are out. Probaby best to let them rant.

I guarantee that none of them have, nor will read Rove's book.

He can't continue to be the antiChrist (as he is, coincidentally, to the radical left), if they actually know what he thinks.

39 posted on 04/03/2010 11:19:57 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: RED SOUTH
You're absolutely right!..

.Before 2008...during 2007 when the illegal immigration salvo hit me smack in the head, I, as well as many here, overlooked & overlooked & overlooked many red flags...

...once I was gobsmacked, there was no turning back...my eyes were open.

40 posted on 04/03/2010 11:22:41 AM PDT by Guenevere (....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson