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To: El Sordo

I’m waiting for cinnamon rolls to come out of the oven for the youth group’s Easter breakfast and won’t have any discretionary time on Monday so I’ll respond while I can.

The two scenarios’ wording fails to reflect what Okubo said. The date of BIRTH is totally irrelevant to this discussion; that’s a mistaken construct of Obama’s attempted forgery. What matters is the date of FILING - which is the date the certificate had a number stamped on it at the state registrar’s office. Obama’s was STAMPED WITH A NUMBER 3 days before the Nordyke twins’ were STAMPED WITH A NUMBER.

Why would anybody with a stamper (most likely the kind where you just increase the last digit each time you stamp) skip around with the numbers? What scenario would cause an office worker to say, “Oops. We forgot to use this number 3 days ago; let’s use it now”?

I have never once seen a birth certificate that has a “Date received” stamp that gives either the date or the hour of receipt in the state registrar’s office, which is what is required for your standard of proof. IOW, you have chosen a standard of proof which can never be satisfied - which is typically what I find in conversations I’ve had with atheists; the epistemology is different for something a person is simply not willing to believe.

The closest we have to a time stamp showing the order that certificates were accepted/approved at the state registrar’s office, according to Okubo, IS the certificate number.

And we do see that the Nordyke BC’s are consecutive, and that all the BC’s posted online fit the pattern of ascending numbers. We see that the Kapiolani BC’s were all signed by the local registrar and filed by the state registrar (given a number, according to Okubo) on the same date (always a Friday, except where national holidays interfere).

Obama’s BC number has two problems with the “Date received”: 1) It’s not on a Friday and should have been received the same Friday as the Nordykes’ were if he was born at Kapiolani; and 2) the certificate number doesn’t match the “Date filed” because the person whose certificate number they used was probably actually born at Kapiolani and had their BC filed and numbered right after the Nordykes. It was probably the person whose BC was either 2 above or below the Nordykes’ in the Kapiolani pile when it was delivered to the registrar’s office on Aug 11, 1961.

What’s funny is that Obama wouldn’t have been caught at this if he had simply used that person’s BC for the forgery and left the dates intact rather than trying to make the dates APPEAR to line up at a superficial glance. (Birth one day earlier than Nordykes when Nordykes were born during a weekend, “Date filed” 3 days earlier than Nordykes; birth announcements 3 days earlier than Nordykes)

Everything this guy has done was meant to allow people to take a superficial glance and be satisfied. It’s only when people start digging into the realities that they find the proof that it’s all manufactured. Obama was counting on people looking at the issue only superficially and then ridiculing anybody who dug deeper. He played this media and society like a fiddle. Whether he ultimately succeeds depends on the integrity of the American people, to pursue the truth even when they get ridiculed for it.

Obama’s hastiness to make the information look superficially correct has actually been the tip-off for me to find other things he’s manufactured. Obama is transparent - transparent in the way he manufactures “documentation”. Once you know the pattern you know what to look for and it leads to the anomalies that prove the fraud.

You haven’t heard the end of the story yet.


346 posted on 04/04/2010 2:55:33 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion; El Sordo

Someone here (name starts with a p) had a link a while back that showed how many births there were in Hawaii for that week. Seems something like 146 or maybe 461 (? ok there was a 4 and 6 and a 1 in it IIRC - it’s been a while) so lets just say hundreds of babies born. With that many certificates, it’s even harder to believe they went, “oopsie!” with the numbering on just his. Just how many times does the Oopsie Fairy have to visit his records before people realize the BS Ogre should be called in.


350 posted on 04/04/2010 12:47:55 PM PDT by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: butterdezillion

Butterdezillion hits another one out of the park.


357 posted on 04/04/2010 11:12:04 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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