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To: Forty-Niner
and although he retains the same rights as an NBC, he does not meet the Constitutional requirements for the Presidency

You can continue believing this drivel if you want. The courts are not supporting your view.

Why are you so interested in seeing Non- Natural Born Citizens become eligible for the Presidency?

I'm interested in seeing a strong, electable conservative movement, something that won't happen if we allow conservatives to be co-opted by unhinged conspiracy mongers foaming at the mouth with their half-baked lunacies of Kenyan grandmothers, Indonesian passports, Hawaiian COLBs and Emmerich de Vattel.

238 posted on 04/02/2010 8:59:40 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Drew68

Since when is it ‘foaming at the mouth’ to stand up for the Constitution?? Why on Earth would any sane person object to that??


239 posted on 04/02/2010 9:01:36 AM PDT by edge919
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To: Drew68

Which of my facts are you saying shows that I am foaming at the mouth?

You say you think the DOH’s consistent answers saying that Obama’s BC is amended are just incompetence (but believe everything else they say as if they were competent). Fine. Believe what you want. But how do you explain the Factcheck COLB receiving a later certificate number when it was given 3 days earlier than the Nordykes’ numbers?

These are facts, Drew - facts put out by the very people everybody else was saying all along were such credible, authoritative people. Why are any of us “foaming at the mouth kooks who will destroy conservatives’ credibility” because we actually listen to what the DOH IS saying?


246 posted on 04/02/2010 9:26:40 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Drew68

....and although he retains the same rights as an NBC, he does not meet the Constitutional requirements for the Presidency.
“You can continue believing this drivel if you want. The courts are not supporting your view.”

Sorry, Drew the Courts have, in decisions throughout our nations history, supported Vittal’s def of NBC as the one used by the founders.
We are in the midst of a Constitutional Crisis in that Obama has been installed as POTUS in violation of our Constitutional Requirements for that Office. The process to rectify this situation could have far reaching precedent setting ramifications, and the courts rightfully are being cautious. The courts, as far as I can see, are not willing to advance this case until all the dots and crosses are in place.....Judge Carter in dismissing Alan Keyes’ suit in Ca. suggested that the Plaintiffs refile the suit as a Quo Warrento in the DC court.....I believe this action was suggested to him by Chief Justice Roberts or some other member of the USSC, a back door communication the Justices are using to try and get this issue back on track.... Realistically I think that this case will not be decided until after Obama leaves office in early 2013...but it will be decided and settled......

Why are you so interested in seeing Non- Natural Born Citizens become eligible for the Presidency?

“I’m interested in seeing a strong, electable conservative movement, something that won’t happen if we allow conservatives to be co-opted by unhinged conspiracy mongers foaming at the mouth with their half-baked lunacies of Kenyan grandmothers, Indonesian passports, Hawaiian COLBs and Emmerich de Vattel.”

I agree with your distaste for some of the half baked conspiracy theories that people that floating about, and also believe that they are counterproductive (are these people Obama supporters trying to discredit a valid reason for Obamas removal?)....I think Occam’s Razor is applicable here...... Obama Jr was born in Hawaii, in 1961, to a US citizen mother, and a Kenyan citizen legal resident. Obama is a citizen just as he claims.....here is is where we diverge.....his citizenship is not that of a Natural Born variety because his citizenship did not flow Naturally from the citizenship of his 2 citizen parents....
Vittal’s “Law of Nations” was a source document for the Founders when they wrote the Constitution, and that is well understood by both Historians and legal experts...just not by you.....The term NBC is an centuries old term first coined in the Roman Empire times, and has had many slightly different definitions.... the US used/uses the definition found in “Law of Nations”.....whether you like it or not....

Question...How does allowing Obama to remain as POTUS, in direct conflict with the Constitutional requirements for that office, advance the Conservative agenda? Does allowing his continued tenure there not set a undesirable and dangerous precedent?


277 posted on 04/02/2010 10:46:16 AM PDT by Forty-Niner ((.))
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