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To: Star Traveler

You wrote:

“And to make it simple for you — it’s about how to avoid rape ...”

No. The men are rapists not “avoid rapists”. Rapists are rapists because they rape, not because teenagers get drunk. If no one committed rape, then this girl woul dnever have been raped no matter how drunk she was.

If you leave your back door unlocked and a murderer gains easy access to your house and murders you, then the issue is not you leaving the door unlocked.

“...which is much preferable than trying to get someone convicted after the fact, as we can well see, from this story.”

They were guilty. They are rapists. They were tried for rape, not for the girl getting herself drunk.

“You know the saying, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure... and in this case there’s no cure available. So, all you have is the prevention aspect of it.”

And rapists still rape. The issue is rape. The trial was about rape. The crime is about rape. They are rapists. And you’re practically making excuses for them.


51 posted on 03/31/2010 3:22:08 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: vladimir998
You were saying ...

If you leave your back door unlocked and a murderer gains easy access to your house and murders you, then the issue is not you leaving the door unlocked.

Well, I would be advising people to keep their homes secure... you see...

Now, some people may like leaving their homes not secure and not keeping lights on and not having security devices and leaving windows open and so on... but, I'm not going to be in that camp.

I'm going to be telling people to keep lights on around their place, keep doors and windows locked, be prepared to defend yourself in your home, and have a gun, have a security device/alarm.

So, you're going to advise people that the problem is, the criminal that killed the person, while I'm going to be telling people how to avoid being killed... :-)

You're operating "after the fact" -- while I prefer to operate "before the fact"...

You're going to tell someone that the criminal should be prosecuted that killed their family member -- while "I'm going to be reading about it in the paper"... you see...


And rapists still rape. The issue is rape. The trial was about rape. The crime is about rape. They are rapists. And you’re practically making excuses for them.

And to me, it's about avoiding rape, you see. You like to operate, "after the fact of rape happening" -- while I like to operate "before the fact" and "make sure rape does not happen".

NOW..., having said that, you can be telling your daughter that she's not responsible for being raped and that it is the criminal's fault -- while I'm going to be telling my daughter that she was smart for making good choices to avoid rape in the first place.

Between you and me... I'll take my way -- and you can handle your way of dealing with it with your daughter...

53 posted on 03/31/2010 3:42:33 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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